How High Does an Arrow Reach if Shot at 46m/s?

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The problem involves determining the maximum height reached by an arrow shot at a speed of 46 m/s, with a noted final speed of 42 m/s at the peak of its trajectory. The scenario assumes no friction and involves concepts of mechanical energy conservation.

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  • Participants discuss the conservation of mechanical energy, attempting to set up equations to relate initial and final energies. Questions arise regarding the correct formulation of kinetic and potential energy in the context of the problem.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the correct approach to equate initial and final energies, while others express confusion about specific aspects of the energy equations, particularly regarding the treatment of kinetic energy terms.

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Participants are working under the assumption of no friction and are focused on understanding the implications of energy conservation in the context of projectile motion.

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An arrow is shot from ground (height=0) at a speed of 46m/s and travels in an archy line and at the maximum height has a speed of 42m/s. Arrows mass is, m...what is the maximum height that the arrow reaches? **IGNORE ANY FRICTION**

Thanks for any help guys


What I did was:

Et1=Mechanical energy before arrow was shot
Et2=Mechanical Energy after arrow was shot
Vf2=Final velocity squared
Vf1=Initial velocity squared



Et1=Et2

m(vf2)/2 - m(vi2)/2 = mgh + m(vf2)/2 - m(vi2)/2

...it doesn't work out though...why?
 
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Originally posted by PiRsq
Et1=Mechanical energy before arrow was shot
Et2=Mechanical Energy after arrow was shot
Vf2=Final velocity squared
Vf1=Initial velocity squared

Et1=Et2

You've got the right idea.

m(vf2)/2 - m(vi2)/2 = mgh + m(vf2)/2 - m(vi2)/2

...it doesn't work out though...why?

You've double-counted the kinetic energies. Each one should only appear once.

The total initial energy is Ei=(1/2)mvi2

The total final energy is Ef=(1/2)mvf2+mgh

Just equate and solve.
 
But why though, I don't get it?
 
What don't you get? The expressions for the total energies, or the mistake of double counting kinetic energy?
 
Double counting the Kinetic energy thing...
 


Continuing with what I wrote earlier:

Originally posted by Tom
The total initial energy is Ei=(1/2)mvi2

The total final energy is Ef=(1/2)mvf2+mgh

Just equate and solve.

Equate the energies Ei=Ef

(1/2)mvi2=(1/2)mvf2+mgh

See? You put in an extra -(1/2)mvi2 on the RHS and an extra -(1/2)mvf2 on the LHS.
 

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