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| Jan8-07, 12:20 PM | #18 |
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Teheran: Israel will regret any attack |
| Jan8-07, 08:45 PM | #19 |
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| Jan9-07, 12:01 AM | #20 |
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In response to whether the U.S. would respond to a nuclear attack on Israel.
I would have to say it would be entirely unnecessary, there is basically little doubt that Israel possesses nucleur weapons, and they also possess nuclear submarines ( most likely to hold nukes in case their small country was ever destroyed) therefore Israel would be quite capable of responding without outside help. |
| Jan9-07, 02:46 AM | #21 |
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| Jan9-07, 04:50 AM | #22 |
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A few points, one we don't know yet if the Iranians are building nukes. Although it seems propable they might. And two even if they are aiming to build nukes, current enrichment estimates put them at having about 7% enriched Uranium. Since you need about 85% enriched for a weapon, although much less for a dirty bomb, I don't think this is a concern for quite some time.
Three, since it's patently obvious that Iran needs Nuclear plants to subsidize it's power and thus get more money from it's oil. I don't see it as anything approaching fair to target it's facilities. Four this is just the usual political games, essentially someones just "leaked" this out to send the message to Iran that they would be prepared to use nuclear weapons if necessary. Sending a warning I think is all this is meant to do. More political posturing basically. Another thing is this is typical speculative scenario running. For example the US has on it's book a what if situation for invading Canada, no one seriously expects they will, but they run all types of scenarios. Essentially this is just more of the same political maneuvering in the ME, I see no reason to be alarmed to any real level. |
| Jan10-07, 01:31 AM | #23 |
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Combine this with the history of Iranian and Iranian-supported attacks against Israeli and Jewish targets all around the world, and the rhetoric of Iranian leaders - and I think you can see why there is no other way for Israel to deal with this existential threat. |
| Jan10-07, 05:16 AM | #24 |
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2) Would it make better economic sense to use nuclear power and sell the oil? Sorry I meant patently obvious to anyone who knows anything about it, this source should make it clear anyway. http://www.payvand.com/news/03/oct/1022.html Mohammad Sahimi is Professor & Chairman of Chemical and Petroleum Engineering at the University of Southern California in Los Angeles. Since 1986, he has been a member of the Union of Concerned Scientists, an organization devoted to preventing the spread of weapons of mass destruction, and a member of the Union's Partners for Earth program. In addition to his scientific research which has resulted in over 200 papers, published in scientific journals, and six books, his political articles have also appeared as book chapters, on various web sites, and in the Los Angeles Times. Article:- |
| Jan10-07, 02:56 PM | #25 |
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can a nuclear power plant be transformed to a plant capable of making bombs?
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| Jan10-07, 04:32 PM | #26 |
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Centrifuges can produce either uranium for power (around 3%) or uranium for Nukes(80-85%) It's alot harder to do it for nukes, you need a hell of a lot of centrifuges, and Iran does not currently have anywhere near enough. |
| Jan10-07, 04:37 PM | #27 |
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LightbulbSun, Iran cannot nuke Israel because Iran has no nuclear weapons, and no chance of building any for years. Israel has nukes and may elect to use them on Iran's nuclear facilities, as you noted. The prime time to use them would be early in the 2-month deployment overlap of the Eisenhower and Stennis carrier groups in the Persian Gulf. If Israeli hawks want to draw the US into a regional war, they will have the perfect opportunity during that period. I hope and pray that it doesn't happen, but all the saber-rattling combined with the lack of any diplomatic dialog with Iraq's neighbors does not bode well. These are dangerous times.
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| Jan10-07, 04:46 PM | #28 |
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For me the translation of Ahmadinejad's statement really sums it up; to this day the official record of both the US and UK, shows "wipe Israel of the map" as his words, when in fact four Farsi experts said:- "The Israeli regime should be removed from the pages of time." A better translation, how different that makes such a statement. It really just does make you wonder, what sort of morons we have in power these days. |
| Jan10-07, 04:48 PM | #29 |
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| Jan10-07, 07:43 PM | #30 |
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| Jan10-07, 10:45 PM | #31 |
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So then we'll want to go to war... but so many of our soldiers died for that cause in Iraq and are still dying... And to invade Iran would be a logistical nightmare because we don't have enough troops and it will cost a lot of our servicemen their lives. I can see the same justification repeating. History repeats. At least we won't have to lose OUR soldiers.. If it worked before why couldn't it work now? So why can't we bomb them into submission? Just like at the end of World War II? Bomb them until our demands are met. |
| Jan10-07, 11:41 PM | #32 |
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If you think that it's OK to bomb a country relentlessly until they are so helpless that our "demands are met" by their primitive living conditions and lack of defense, you may have a career in neoconservative politics.
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| Jan11-07, 12:38 AM | #33 |
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This cuts many ways, and Iran is, by no reasonable judgement, an innocent victim to Western trigger-happiness. |
| Jan11-07, 12:42 AM | #34 |
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All I'm saying is, the same decision could be made today as well. I don't want it to, I'm not advocating it, but the western world is going to want to force Iran into submission on its own terms, exactly the same as the end of WWII. And the United States might use a show of force to compel Iran to do such.. But the United States could decide to use more force than they should in the interest of saving American lives.. If that was the scenario at the end of WWII and if that is what is important, than why wouldn't they make the same decision today? If Iran is GOING TO build up nuclear weapons, and plans to use them against Israel, or supply them to terrorists, we will have a catastrophe. This is the premise which the western world is using for the purposes of being paranoid. That said, everything is being done to avoid this alleged activity. Sanctions are placed on Iran. But what if the stakes are too high and the US is too stubborn or whatever, no progress is made, and Iran may very well be "forced" to abandon their nuclear weapons program one way or another by the United States. Since an invasion would be really costly (as can be seen in Iraq), what else would they do besides bomb the heck out of Iran? |
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