Prove that the sum of two odd primes will never result in a prime?

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The discussion revolves around the question of whether the sum of two odd prime numbers can ever result in a prime number. Participants explore various approaches to proving or disproving this statement, including attempts at proof by contradiction and counterexamples.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests a proof by contradiction, asserting that the sum of two odd primes can sometimes yield a prime, using the example of 2 + 3 = 5.
  • Another participant provides a general expression for two odd numbers and notes that their sum is always even, questioning the validity of using 2 in the context of odd primes.
  • Some participants clarify that the initial argument presented is a counterexample rather than a proof by contradiction, emphasizing that the counterexample does not adhere to the stipulation of using odd primes.
  • There is a distinction made between proof by contradiction and disproof by counterexample, with participants discussing the implications of these terms in the context of the argument.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the validity of the initial proof attempt. There is disagreement on the correct interpretation of proof techniques and the applicability of counterexamples.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in the initial proof attempts, particularly regarding the definitions and conditions surrounding odd primes and the nature of mathematical proofs.

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How can I prove that the sum of two odd primes will never result in a prime?

Would this be proof?:

Proof by contradiction:
The sum of two odd primes will sometimes result in a prime.
This is true because 2 + 3 = 5, which is a prime.

So since this is true, does this proof the situation? Thank you.
 
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Originally posted by Caldus
How can I prove that the sum of two odd primes will never result in a prime?

Here's something to get you started:

Write down a general expression for two different odd numbers {x,y} in terms of integers {m,n}, respectively:

x=2m+1
y=2n+1

The sum is always even. Now you're not out of the woods yet, because 2 is even and it is also a prime. So, you have to use the above (along with the definition of "prime") to show that, if x+y=2, then at least one of the numbers must be nonprime (that is, 1 or an odd negative number).

Would this be proof?:

Proof by contradiction:
The sum of two odd primes will sometimes result in a prime.
This is true because 2 + 3 = 5, which is a prime.

So since this is true, does this proof the situation? Thank you.

No, that does not prove it. Proof by contradiction means that you assume the negative of the statement you are trying to prove and show an absurdity.

Also, you did not stick to the condition stipulated by the statement, which specifies odd primes (that means you can't use 2).
 
Proof by contradiction:
The sum of two odd primes will sometimes result in a prime.
This is true because 2 + 3 = 5, which is a prime.

That's not a proof by contradiction, that's a proof by counterexample (but as Tom said, the counterexample isn't valid).
 
Originally posted by Muzza
That's not a proof by contradiction, that's a proof by counterexample (but as Tom said, the counterexample isn't valid).

Not to nitpick, but it's actually a disproof by counterexample.
 

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