Change in Translational KE of a gas

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the change in translational kinetic energy (KE) of an ideal gas during isothermal expansion and adiabatic compression. Participants explore the relationship between temperature, internal energy, and translational KE in these processes, with a focus on the assumptions regarding rotational and vibrational motion of the gas.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the internal energy of the gas changes during isothermal expansion, given that the temperature remains constant.
  • Another participant suggests that since the temperature does not change during the expansion, there may be no change in translational KE until the gas is compressed.
  • A later reply asserts that during isothermal expansion, the constant temperature implies no change in internal energy, while during adiabatic compression, work done on the gas results in an increase in internal energy.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether translational KE changes during the isothermal expansion, with some suggesting it remains constant and others indicating that it may only change during compression. The discussion does not reach a consensus on this point.

Contextual Notes

Assumptions regarding the behavior of the gas, particularly the treatment of rotational and vibrational motion, are acknowledged but not fully explored. The implications of constant temperature and the nature of work done during compression are also noted as areas of complexity.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to students and enthusiasts of thermodynamics, particularly those studying the behavior of gases under different thermodynamic processes.

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We've been set the question of- In an isothermal expansion, and ideal gas at initial pressure Po expands until its volume is twice its initial volume. When the gas is compressed adibatically and quasi-statically ack to its original volume, its pressure is 1.32Po. How does the translational kinetic energy of the gas change in these processes? We can assume throughout that the gas is in the regime where rotational motion takes plae, but vibraional motion is frozen out.

Can someone just give me a general idea of how the translational KE of the gas changes? When it initially expands does its internal energy change at all since its temp doesn't change? If so, does this mean that there is no change in the translational energy during expansion and it only changes when it's compressed?
 
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Anyone have any ideas?:smile:

As iI said above (sort of!), since it's temperature doesn't change during the expansion, does this mean that there is no change in the translational KE of the gas and that it will only change during the compression?
 
You've answered your question. During the isothermal expansion, constant T means no internal energy change. During the adiabatic compression, there is no heat flow. But, work is being done on the gas and this will show up as an increased internal energy.
 
Thanks very much!:smile:
 

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