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Why the sun/moon looks bigger at the sunset/rise?

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pixel01
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Mar23-07, 11:24 AM
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May be this is an old question. Some teachers explained to me that is because of illusion. Anyway I feel not so sure about that. Can anyone explain this phenomenon scientifically.
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neutrino
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Mar23-07, 11:31 AM
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These articles have some info
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/moonbig.html
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/3d/moonillu.htm (this link is also available in the first article - make sure you read the discalimer)
mathman
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Mar23-07, 04:18 PM
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My own experience is that it is an illusion. If you lie on your back and look straight up, things (clouds, sun, moon) appear bigger than when you are standing up and looking up.

interested_learner
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Mar23-07, 08:22 PM
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Why the sun/moon looks bigger at the sunset/rise?

To convince yourself that it is an illusion is easy. When the moon is full, on the horizon and looks large, put your thumb out at arms length and you will note that your thumb covers the moon. Do it again when the moon is high.

You will note that thumb covers the moon the same no matter how big or small it looks. This means that it has to be an illusion because an experiment (your thumb) confirmed that the moon is the small size in both cases. Why that is so is another question which I don't know.
Flying Penguin
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Mar27-07, 08:35 AM
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In the middle of the sky your eyes have no reference points for size.
neutrino
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Mar27-07, 08:52 AM
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In the middle of the sky your eyes have no reference points for size.
That is exactly what it is not. Read the first link in my earlier post.

Bad Astronomy: The Moon appears larger on the horizon than overhead because you are comparing it to foreground objects.
russ_watters
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Mar27-07, 10:22 AM
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The link the BA provides is interesting: http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/3d/moonillu.htm

It doesn't give a difinitive answer, but suggests it is partly due to a number of different illusions. The primary one, however, seems to be based on our inner ear's and eye's ability to distinguish vertical angles. Most people don't realize it because they don't know how high objects actually are, but people tend to overestimate the altitude of low objects in the sky. Because of this, we percieve the dome of the sky to be stretched at low altitude (the sky dome illusion).


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