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May3107, 12:30 PM

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I have one question. It is about current in conductor. It is about electromagnet induction. So I move the magnet among conductor in closed circular loop, like on this picture.
So is the way of moving of the electrons depends from the way of the moving magnet? Let's say I move the magnet in direction of the arrow (like on the pic), so the electrons will move in the direction of the arrow (like on the picture), right? Thank you. 



#2
May3107, 03:48 PM

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hi!
there's the third maxwell relation: curl E == d/dt(B). You than use stokes theorem to get its integral form: int[E*dl](contour)==int[d/dt(B)](surface, enclosed by contour). So, you have your permanent magnet, it's like a manetic dipole. Its magnetic field attenuates like 1/r^3. So you pick a turn in your coil, and move your dipole into it. Than you're integrating the magnetic flux density(B) on the surface, enclosed by the wire(the one turn in the coil), and you get an electromive force, that drives electrons through the wire, like a voltage applied on some other wire, according to Ohm's law. So as you can see, bringing the dipole closer to the loop, B is rising, than as you left the center of the loop, the B is getting weaker. So first you get a current flowing one direction, and than in the opposite direction. Than you can generalize, and take the whole coil into consideration. 



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May3107, 04:16 PM

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#4
May3107, 04:33 PM

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Question about electromagnetism
no, not any direction. either direction is correct.
you grab the coil with you right hand, and in the direction, your fingers curl, will the current flow, when you pull out the dipole, so the loop experiences weaker and weaker Bfield. when you mive the dipole in, the opposite is true. 



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Jun107, 01:01 AM

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#6
Jun107, 05:04 AM

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you dont seem to understand the whole idea.
the electrons doesnt move because of the B field. they move, because a timedependent magnetic field is present in the loop, and it induces an electric field, which is not curlfree. this field drives the electrons. magnetic fields exert a force on charges, its the Lorentzforce: F=q*v x B, where x is the cross product of the velocity of the electron and the magnetic flux density vector. however i strongly recommend you to grab some physics textbooks, and read them carefully, these things must be in them, and probably they can teach you better than me. 



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#10
Jun107, 05:27 PM

PF Gold
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Electrons go from cathode to anode. There's no cathode or anode in your setup. As has been told to you in all your threads  the answer is in Maxwell's equations. Go away and study them. 



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