Is infinite divisibility possible through quantum mechanics?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of infinite divisibility in the context of quantum mechanics, exploring whether quantum phenomena allow for the existence of infinitely divisible entities or if they imply a more unified nature of reality. The scope includes theoretical implications, interpretations of quantum experiments, and philosophical considerations.

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  • One participant suggests that quantum mechanics might allow for the existence of an atom in two places simultaneously, questioning if this could imply infinite divisibility or infinite energy.
  • Another participant counters that nonlocal effects in quantum mechanics suggest profound unity rather than infinite divisibility, referencing the double slit experiment as an example.
  • There are multiple interpretations of quantum phenomena, with one participant noting that string theory posits only one electron in the universe, which raises questions about electron interactions.
  • A participant expresses skepticism about the implications of faster-than-light movement, suggesting it equates to supernatural explanations rather than scientific ones.
  • There is a request for clarification and links regarding the experiment mentioned, indicating a desire for more information on the topic.

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Participants express differing views on the implications of quantum mechanics for infinite divisibility, with some arguing for profound unity and others exploring the possibility of infinite divisibility. The discussion remains unresolved with competing perspectives presented.

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Some claims rely on interpretations of quantum mechanics that may not be universally accepted, and the discussion includes speculative ideas that have not been definitively established.

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The thread “Sorites Heap Paradox” brought the following thought to mind.

Quantum mechanics may not answer the infinitely divisible question in the way that one would expect. Normally we think of discrete units here, but consider this: I read that at the University at Boulder [I think] an atom was made to exist in two places at once. Somehow they we able to actually measure the wave function without collapsing it…I think…which made it possible two measure two of its states or positions. Does this qualify as splitting one and not getting two halves, but two wholes? Perhaps we can keep producing doubles infinitely without ever collapsing the wave function of the entangled system. How about it...does anyone know if this could be possible? Perhaps the problem of infinitely divisible becomes one of infinite energy. I don’t know much about this experiment so please forgive any errors. In fact, I would appreciate any information, links, or comments.

Assassination attempts are OK also.
 
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That's an example of nonlocal effects which actually imply the opposite of infinite divisibility, profound unity. The double slit experiment is a more classic example of this phenomenon.

There are no less than eight widely respected explanations for quantum weirdness like this. One is that everything is profoundly unified, another is something is moving faster than the speed of light. Moving faster than light is equivalent to saying its magic. For example, string theory proposes there is only one electron in the universe, it just gets around so fast we can't tell the difference between having only one electron and having quadrillians.
 
Originally posted by wuliheron
Moving faster than light is equivalent to saying its magic. For example, string theory proposes there is only one electron in the universe, it just gets around so fast we can't tell the difference between having only one electron and having quadrillians.

If that were true, wouldn't that mean that electrons are unable to interract with each other in any way?
 
Originally posted by Ivan Seeking
I read that at the University at Boulder
[I think] an atom was made to exist in two
places at once. Somehow they we able to
actually measure the wave function without
collapsing it…I think…
What ?! Link, please !
(btw, isn't this a theo. physics subject ?)
 
Originally posted by C0mmie
If that were true, wouldn't that mean that electrons are unable to interract with each other in any way?

Naah... faster than light is just another euphamism for supernatural. If the supernatural were constrained by natural law it wouldn't be super now would it?
 

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