Can x/0 be divided out

ShawnD

Say I had an expression that went like this

[tex]\frac{ 5 \frac{x}{0} }{3 \frac{x}{0} }[/tex]

Can I divide those [itex]\frac{x}{0}[/itex] terms or do they make the expression undefined?

chroot

Nope, you can't divide them out. The entire expression is indeterminate (NOT undefined).

- Warren

matt grime

I wouldn't say you can't divide them out so much as what you wrote is just plain wrong, being polite about it - the symbols make no sense as written.

chroot

I think he means

[tex]\frac{ 5 \cdot \frac{x}{0} }{3 \cdot \frac{x}{0} }[/tex]

to be read "5 times x over 0...", not "5 and x zeroths..."

- Warren

matt grime

But is still makes no sense. x/0 is not a well-defined symbol in the real number system that one can manipulate like this.

Chen

I think that was part of his question.

Organic

1/0.1 is tha same as 1*10
1/0.01 is tha same as 1*100
1/0.001 is tha same as 1*1000
and so on ...

1/0 is the same as 1*oo and in both cases we are no longer in a finite system.

oo is a general notation for infinity therefore 1/0 is also a general notation for infinity.

Please look at: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Infinity.html

Zurtex

Note for others, in the link given it goes points out:

"Informally,[itex]1 / \infty = 0[/tex] , a statement which can be made rigorous using the limit concept"

You can't just say:

[tex]\frac{1}{\infty} = 0[/tex]

or any manipulation of that as and think it is mathematically true.

Hurkyl

Discussion over the foundations of limits split to new thread. Please stop hijacking threads.