Have you tried the beta version of Office 2003 and Longhorn?

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The discussion revolves around the beta versions of Office 2003 and Longhorn, exploring user experiences, opinions on their features, and the stability of these software versions. Participants share their attempts to download and use these betas, as well as their thoughts on potential changes in user interface and functionality.

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  • Some participants express enthusiasm for the Office 2003 beta, highlighting features like XML document support.
  • Others question the stability and readiness of Longhorn, with claims that it is not close to beta status.
  • There are inquiries about where to download the Office 2003 beta, with some sharing personal experiences of receiving it at a seminar.
  • Participants discuss the perceived lack of significant changes in Longhorn compared to Windows XP, with some noting similarities in toolbars and menus.
  • One participant expresses a desire for a radically different operating system, criticizing current design elements like desktop icons and the start menu.
  • There are suggestions for alternative user interface designs, including concepts inspired by video game HUDs and voice command integration.
  • Some participants share experiences with voice command software and its potential applications in operating systems.
  • Concerns are raised about the stability of Longhorn, with reports of applications crashing unexpectedly.
  • There are discussions about the legality of obtaining software codes and the implications of sharing such information.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the quality and stability of Longhorn, with mixed opinions on its readiness. There is also disagreement regarding the desirability of radical changes in user interface design.

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Some claims about the features and stability of the software are based on personal experiences and may not reflect broader user experiences. Discussions about potential software modifications and user interface designs are speculative and not universally accepted.

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Some people said they had downloaded the beta version and tried it out,

due to my modem is slow, i can't download them.

Anyone had tried them? How good are they?
 
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I have the Office 2003 beta, which is awesome I might add (you can dump any document into XML format). I doubt Longhorn (code name) is even close to beta status.

btw, most of the screenshots on the web of longhorn are fakes.
 
Is there a place I can download Office 2003 beta?
 
Is there a place I can download Office 2003 beta?
No, I went to an all day microsoft seminar/worksoft last week and they gave us a bunch of software to try out (including Server 2003 :smile:).
 
Originally posted by Greg Bernhardt
I doubt Longhorn (code name) is even close to beta status.
My friend has the beta, and says that there isn't much of a change from xp YET!, the toolbars and startmenu are similar at this stage but this is only an alpha so let's hope it is good.
 
My friend has the beta... but this is only an alpha

which is it?
 
my friend managed to download LongHorn XP Build 4015.main.030328-1500 , from Kazaa.
 
I would like to see this longhorn, as long as it's radically different. Which I'm sure it isn't.

I want a radical change in OS. Things I hate:

1. desktop icons (I removed mine)
2. start menu (such BS it's so last century)
3. bottom bar on windows (blah)
4. it's just all so old style, the OS world needs to be revolutionized.

In the past I created the pictorial version of a very advanced GUI. Not the code just the design. So much more sensical I thought.

People don't like radical change though, so, it' dbe a risk for MS.
 
Uh..how would u do anything without a toolbar or icons? *confuzzled*..Would you have some sort of new fancy menu? Or like a jazzed up command prompt?
 
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Originally posted by dav2008
Uh..how would u do anything without a toolbar or icons? *confuzzled*..Would you have some sort of new fancy menu? Or like a jazzed up command prompt?

Dav - I've had various planned out changes.

No command prompt surely. Well, I don't have icons on my compute rnow anyways.

I use the symbols across the toolbar. never use the start button at all.

It's kind of complicated, I mapped out the basics of the navigation of windows.

And then determined what people click from the desktop alone etc...

It's complicated - but basically, are you familiar with HUDs in video games?

They're basically the "desktop" when your in the game that shows your health and ammo etc..

Usually they use certain information all around the edges, corners and sides as well.

Generally, it's a thin wire-like template (although changable) around the edges.

And, (especially since monitors are getting large) "windows" and other things go into the main square (the GUi on the rims is thin, like the toolbar).

So, there are toolbar like things on the desktop. But they just apporiate more under the idea that you need less clicks to get to MORe things that normally you would either have to go through the start menu, or go into "my computer" and find things in folders.

that's most of the idea, but that was like 3 years ago, it was just an idea i drew up in more detail.
 
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Don't forget it was something that, 3 years ago, would still push computers to the max today.

So it had a lot of voice managments, and would potentially also speak to you, so certain info would be said instead of read. Such as the time perhaps, or other basic values like "do i have mail" etc...

You know, you strucka chord

I always liked designing GUI's and video games and things. But now that I'm olrder (23) i don't do "purposeless (there's the word in question!)" stuff anymore.

I wish someone special (bill are you there?) would at least check it out.

Cuzz i don't have time in my life to waste with useless stuff. Ugh, oh well.
 
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You can do the "rim the monitor with toolsbars" now. Just create a bunch of toolbars (right click the taskbar > toolbars) and dock them on the sides of the monitor. If you prefer, you can hide the taskbar and replace it with a toolbar as well.

Get Dragon Naturally Speaking, and a lot of voice commands will be avaliable to you as well, perhaps not as advanced as you envision, however.
 
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COnsidering - Nice info. Actually, as my OS is designed, it gets the user to use a lot of voice commmands. The screen (and remember the screen is plasma shape not square shape) normally has bars on the sides, but you can put them wherever you want.

Also, the bars disappear if you'd like and vocals can completely take over.

Aside from processing speed, one should be able to do on their computer what they want, as fast as possible. Open a progeam as fast, get to a website as fast...

Vocal commands are certainly the in thing on this GUI.
 
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If voice is the major addition, look at the aformentioned Dragon software: http://www.scansoft.com/naturallyspeaking/. I've heard it is pretty powerful...

It should help tide you over until the technology you have envisioned becomes avaliable :smile:
 
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It will type what I say, but what I would more so want would be something that would open applications and surf the web through it.

That's a bit more advanced.
 
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What I'm saying is that it can be programmed to do exactly that...to open applications when you speak a certain phrase. Dunno about the web surfing, I'm sure it can handle it in some capacity.

Don't they also have software for blind people that works the same way? Reads screen choices to them and then goes where they tell it? Hmmm...

I used a very old voice program from waaaaay back...when CD-ROMs were at 3 and 4x speeds. From creative, and it would open programs, move the cursor up and down, etc. Pretty neat stuff...
 
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Oh I didn't see where it said that. It talked about the typing. then I will try it for sure!
 
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http://www.scansoft.com/naturallyspeaking/standard/

Exact info you are looking for, sorry I didn't find it earlier
 
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my friend installed longhorn, he said it is unstable, application can be shutdown for no apparent reason.

lousy, i won't try it!
 
  • #20
my friend installed longhorn, he said it is unstable, application can be shutdown for no apparent reason.
ummm... it's in early beta, what do you expect?
 
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MSoffice 2003 Beta2

I installed MSoffice 2003 Beta2, cool!
The interface is bluish in WindowsXP, looks nice.
But not so good looking in windows2000.

One thing strange, why there is no ShortCut Bar for office2003 ?




[?]
 
  • #22
I get the Beta2 CD from Microsoft sales office in malaysia.

Valid only for 14 days.

I try to get crack code for it from China's website.
 
  • #23
Prolly not a good idea to post your intention to violate the EULA of any software program on any forum.
 
  • #24
my friend gave me the secret code of Office2003, it works!
Sorry,MR Bill Gate.
 
  • #25
Originally posted by Saint

my friend gave me the secret code of Office2003, it works!
Sorry,MR Bill Gate.
You might want to consider what considering told you...
 

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