Calculate Force Req. to Lift Load 3m High

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The discussion revolves around calculating the force required to lift a load 3 meters high, with considerations of energy and mechanics involved in the lifting process. The context includes both theoretical and practical aspects of force application, energy transfer, and lever mechanics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Kalpesh seeks assistance in calculating the force needed to lift a load 3 meters high, referencing an attached image.
  • Some participants question the feasibility of lifting the load with a 1-meter lever arm, suggesting clarification on whether the load is to be thrown or lifted.
  • Kalpesh confirms that the load is not attached to the lever and needs to be thrown upwards.
  • One participant emphasizes the need to consider energy rather than just force, suggesting that understanding energy requirements may simplify the calculation.
  • Another participant provides a formula relating work done by external forces to changes in mechanical energy, indicating that the work done is equal to the potential energy change when lifting the load.
  • A participant notes the importance of the lever arm's maximum value in determining the force application.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the method of lifting the load, with some focusing on force calculations and others on energy considerations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific calculations needed.

Contextual Notes

There are missing details regarding the load's mass, the angle of application, and the specific mechanics of the lever system, which may affect the calculations discussed.

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I want to know how to calculate the amount of force req. in the given picture. I want to lift the load 3 meters high.

Can anyone help.
 

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Where is the picture?
 
I attached it in the thread
Dont know how to use it

Thanks

Kalpesh
 
I can't see how you can lift the load 3 meters high when the lever connected to it is just 1 meter long. Or do you mean "throwing" the load 3 meters high, rather than lifting it while it's on the lever?
 
You got it right my friend

The ball / load is not attached to the arm.

Hence the ball needs to be thrown upwards.
 
kalpesh,
You have given us a point of application, but no direction or sense.
-Mike
 
Michal

I have changed the image for your ref.

please help me how to calculate the req. force whith the given angle and also if you change the angle.

Kalpesh
 
You need to apply energy, not force (they are related, but it will be easier to first consider the required energy, and then translate that into how much force to apply).
 
Thanks TURIN

But in that case u will need to tell me how to find energy and then how to convert it to force.

Thanks
Kalpesh
 
  • #10
Generally speaking, the work done by all non-conservative forces is equal to the change in mechanical energy of the object. In your case:

[tex]{W_F}_{ext} = \Delta E_m = \Delta E_k + \Delta E_p[/tex]

Since the inital velocity and final velocity are both zero, there is no change in kinetic energy so it comes down to this:

[tex]W_F = \vec F\cdot \vec x = mgh[/tex]
 
  • #11
And don't forget that the x vector has a maximum value (determined by the lever arm).
 

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