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Photos from Iraq

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phatmonky
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Apr12-04, 11:15 AM
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Quote Quote by ahrkron
Think for a second about a good guy in Irak (there should be some, don't you think?). Now imagine you being that good guy, proud of your family and your country, even with its imperfections.

Then along comes a bombing and kills half your family. You would surely say "Anything (including using an RPG) I can do to kill just one of the guys coming in their F16 and Humvees."

That solves nothing, and just makes you a suitable piece for the conflict to continue.

Over there, both americans and (about ten times as many) irakis die or, maybe worse, are wounded and condemned to a miserable life; in the meantime, Halliburton executives get richer, and Bush has to face the unconfortable position of having to admit that the issue was "underestimated".

It makes me feel overwhelmingly sad. Really.
Idealogical differences are a *****. It is all just a matter of persective to some extent, but every one of those masked men with an RPG continues to endanger women and children by not fighting by the rules of war, and instead by cowardly hiding in crowds, and running. These people cannot be reasoned with, for they answer to no one. Each RPG represents a soon to be attempt on soldier, of civilian, life. If it comes down to it, I will gladly and happily remove the threat to those that are committed to rebuilding Iraq (something you simply cannot argue that the guy with the RPG is committed to)
Now, step to the hostage takers (the ones that anger me more than anything) - do you truly believe this is the common Iraqi, and thus this person can be reasoned via love, comfort, etc etc.? Of course not. And without the ability to reason with, they are a threat that has to be removed. Arrest them, kill them, it doesn't matter.
phatmonky
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Apr12-04, 11:16 AM
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Sorry, I just find this funny. There is no intellectual stimulation to be found here. It's pure comedy. "I'd shoot 'em if I could!" Funny. Some of you hairless apes belong in the circus.
adam ad hominem


Just so I can find this in the future.
Chemicalsuperfreak
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Apr12-04, 12:04 PM
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Quote Quote by phatmonky
as I said on the other board you posted this on:

Start the draft. I want to go a do a one year tour in Iraq. Anything I can do to kill just one of the guys holding an RPG.
Why wait for the draft? Put your money where your mouth is and go and enlist now.
phatmonky
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Apr12-04, 01:22 PM
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Why wait for the draft? Put your money where your mouth is and go and enlist now.
I'm not looking to do my eight years right now. I'll be doing that after I finish college - hence, the want for a one year tour.
Michael D. Sewell
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Apr13-04, 01:58 AM
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Quote Quote by Adam
Some of you hairless apes belong in the circus.
What we have here is a problem with reading comprehension. Yes, reading comprehension people, I've had this problem before...

Ad hominem from Adam...

again.
Michael D. Sewell
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Apr13-04, 02:45 AM
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Why is it that fundamentalist muslims can't seem to get along with anyone else? Why do they always make war on everyone? Why are they such an aggressive people? They buy weapons from all over the world and use them against their neighbors. This is nothing new, it's been going on for a long, long time.

These people can't even get along with each other. They gas people, shoot people, burn people alive, blow people up, hang people. They just love public executions. They love to kill. Death seems to be the answer to all of their problems. They kill hindus, jews, christians and everyone else they can get their hands on. Then when someone shoots back, all of a sudden they are victims. Oh my goodness! We're being persecuted! Let's take some pictures of our dead and wounded to show the world how we're being oppressed by the infidels.

These people are the worst war mongers on the planet. They are brutal, and have no mercy for anyone. They love to kill, and will do so for any reason that they can find - or invent.
schwarzchildradius
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Apr13-04, 02:56 AM
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Easy does it. We're seeing pictures of the convoys that were hit on 4/9. 3558 US soldiers dead or wounded, unknown number of US mercenaries & contractors. The neo-cons would have everyone believe that the guerilla warriors in Iraq are all the same kind of scum that hit us in 2001, but they're not.
If a foreign nation deposed President Bush and occupied our land with designs on our resources, some of us would take up arms against that nation (call it "France"). These people would be called terrorists by the "French," freedom fighters by "Fance's" enemies, and patriots by Americans.
Whatever. I think we got to get out of Iraq, and I don't think that it will lead to the destruction of Iraq if we do. To hell with the "super-bases" and oil fields.
Michael D. Sewell
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Apr13-04, 03:25 AM
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I think we got to get out of Iraq, and I don't think that it will lead to the destruction of Iraq if we do.
I don't give a **** if it does. Put Sadaam back in power, these people deserve him.
phatmonky
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Apr13-04, 07:30 AM
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Quote Quote by schwarzchildradius
Easy does it. We're seeing pictures of the convoys that were hit on 4/9. 3558 US soldiers dead or wounded, unknown number of US mercenaries & contractors. The neo-cons would have everyone believe that the guerilla warriors in Iraq are all the same kind of scum that hit us in 2001, but they're not.
If a foreign nation deposed President Bush and occupied our land with designs on our resources, some of us would take up arms against that nation (call it "France"). These people would be called terrorists by the "French," freedom fighters by "Fance's" enemies, and patriots by Americans.
Whatever. I think we got to get out of Iraq, and I don't think that it will lead to the destruction of Iraq if we do. To hell with the "super-bases" and oil fields.
Oh yes, the age old 'compare an elected government that will change in a maximum of 8 years to a brutal dictator whose end (via offspring) is nowhere in sight'......
schwarzchildradius
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Apr13-04, 08:17 AM
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not quite an argument but... what the heck do you want? a monarchy? go ahead and defect to the British Empire.
phatmonky
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Apr13-04, 08:23 AM
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Quote Quote by schwarzchildradius
not quite an argument but... what the heck do you want? a monarchy? go ahead and defect to the British Empire.
Not quite an argument?
Okay, let me spell it out for you....

Making the statement that we would feel just the same having an elected leader that will be rotated regularly removed from power, as we would if a dictator that oppressed all but 20% of the population was removed from power, is a total fallacy.
schwarzchildradius
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Apr13-04, 08:28 AM
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Nobody's making that statement.
phatmonky
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Apr13-04, 09:16 AM
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Quote Quote by schwarzchildradius
Nobody's making that statement.

Well then, this is the most odd, out of place, statement I have ever see in the middle of a conversation about insurgents in Iraq.

If a foreign nation deposed President Bush and occupied our land with designs on our resources, some of us would take up arms against that nation (call it "France"). These people would be called terrorists by the "French," freedom fighters by "Fance's" enemies, and patriots by Americans.


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