How Does Gyroscopic Precession Relate to Torque and Angular Momentum?

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The discussion revolves around the mathematical relationships between gyroscopic precession, torque, and angular momentum. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how these concepts interrelate and seeks guidance on where to begin their exploration.

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  • The original poster attempts to connect precessional frequency, torque, and angular momentum but is unsure of the relevant equations and concepts. They ask for clarification on specific terms and equations provided by another participant.

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hi. not sure if this belongs in here, so sorry in advance for any trouble caused.
i am in a bit of a predicament with a physics assessment of mine; i need to know the mathematical relationships between the precessional frequency, the couple (or torque, as i have read it called) and the angular momentum of a gyroscope, and (here comes the tricky bit) i would like to understand it...
i just need someone to point me in the right direction, i mean i hardly know which questions to ask or where to start looking (sob sob).
i am quasi-familiar with the concept of moment of inertia being the equivalent of mass in linear motion and angular velocity that of velocity (duh), but i have not found a set of formulae that would allow me to make a connection between the aforementioned...er... things...

i come with the rather unsound basis of a-level physics, which is why it will be an especially challenging task for you get me to understand it. good luck (and thanks).

cucumber.
 
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[tex]\theta r = s[/tex]
[tex]\omega r = v[/tex]
[tex]\alpha r = a[/tex]
[tex]\vec{L} = \vec{r} \times \vec{p}[/tex]
[tex]\vec{\tau} = \vec{r} \times \vec{F}[/tex]

cookiemonster
 
thanks cookiemonster.
i'm unsure about a couple of things, though...

what are the "s" and the theta in [theta]*r = s

what are the alpha and the "a" in [alpha]*r = a

what are the "r"'s in both the above equations (just to be sure...)

and finally, what are those two other equations all about?
i suppose that funny looking thing (like half a pi) is torque, but the rest i have absolutely no idea... sorry.
i'd be very grateful if you could clarify them a bit.

thanks again.
cucumber.
 
In a circle of radius r the length of any arc is given by the angle it creates with the center of the circle times the radius: [tex]s = \theta r[/tex]

Angular acceleration:
[tex]\alpha = \frac{a_t}{r}[/tex]
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/rotq.html#rq

Angular momentum:
[tex]\vec{L} = \vec{r} \times \vec{p}[/tex]
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/amom.html

Torque ('tau'):
[tex]\vec{\tau} = \vec{r} \times \vec{F}[/tex]
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/torq2.html#tc

Precession of Gyroscope:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/gyr.html#gyr
 

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