Is There a Reason for the Unique Shape of This Galaxy?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the unique shape of a galaxy identified as a torus, with participants exploring its characteristics, formation theories, and comparisons to other galaxies. The conversation includes both conceptual and observational aspects of galaxy morphology.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants describe the galaxy as having a toroidal shape, with gas, dust, and star-forming regions on its surface.
  • There is confusion regarding the terminology, with one participant mistakenly associating "torus" with "taurus," leading to questions about the shape's nomenclature.
  • One participant suggests that the galaxy may have originally been a barred spiral that underwent a transformation due to an external influence.
  • Another theory mentioned involves the possibility of a collision at the galaxy's center causing a ripple effect of star formation.
  • Participants discuss the distribution of matter within the galaxy, with one noting that it does not conform to a traditional toroidal structure due to the even distribution of matter.
  • There is mention of other ring galaxies, such as the Cartwheel galaxy, which provides a comparative context for understanding the observed galaxy's structure.
  • Questions arise regarding the nature of the central region of the galaxy, with speculation about whether it is a quasar or simply older stars.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various theories and observations about the galaxy's shape and formation, but there is no consensus on the reasons for its unique structure or the specifics of its central region. Multiple competing views remain regarding its classification and formation history.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference different definitions of a torus, leading to potential misunderstandings. The discussion also highlights the complexity of galaxy formation processes, with various assumptions and conditions that are not fully resolved.

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It's a galaxy in the form of a torus and the gas, dust and star forming regions lie on the surface of the torus.

http://hyperphoto.photoloft.com/view/exportImage.asp?s=cano&i=10620506&w=640&h=800
 
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I think it is really fascinating! I thought a taurus was a bull?
Why is it shaped the way it is?
 
a torus is a bulge or large swell. it is very weird though.
 
Originally posted by Tyger
It's a galaxy in the form of a torus and the gas, dust and star forming regions lie on the surface of the torus.

http://hyperphoto.photoloft.com/view/exportImage.asp?s=cano&i=10620506&w=640&h=800

Hoag's object is a ring galaxy---several examples of ring galaxies are known----there is another in the picture

blob of old (reddish) stars in the middle
a ring of young blue stars---and star formation

one theory is it used to be a barred spiral and something
knocked the bar out

There is a ring galaxy called Cartwheel which has evidence of its center having been crashed thru by another small galaxy which is visible leaving the scene and is already 250,000 LY away.

There's a theory that a collision at the center could cause an expanding ripple of star formation out like a rock going thru the surface of a pond.
 
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Greetings !

Yeah, I've seen it some time ago in the news.
Can't remember if they said why does it look
like that, but I suppose that statisticly if you
look at enough galaxies you'd expect one to
look like that. Anyway, what's that in the middle ?
A quasar ? Just some star that was in the way ?
Also, it's not exactly a torus because the
matter seems evenly ditributed, not in a curved
empty cylindrical form.

Live long and prosper.
 
Originally posted by HazZy
a torus is a bulge or large swell. it is very weird though.

A torus is actually like a donut.
 
oh well, i was using the definition of a torus in anatomy, thought they would be the same.
 


Originally posted by drag
Greetings !

Yeah, I've seen it some time ago in the news.
Can't remember if they said why does it look
like that, but I suppose that statisticly if you
look at enough galaxies you'd expect one to
look like that. [blue]Anyway, what's that in the middle ?
A quasar ? Just some star that was in the way ?
Also, it's not exactly a torus because the
matter seems evenly ditributed, not in a curved
empty cylindrical form.?[/blue]

The yellow nucleus is just a bunch of older stars. The best explanation of the formation is a galaxy passed nearby, stripping it somewhat.

Cartwheel galaxy-
http://ftp.seds.org/pub/images/hst/Cartwheel.jpg

Another picture of Hoag Object, more realistic of what a person would see, I thought it was interesting-
http://www.geocities.com/benoit_schillings/hoag.jpg
 
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