Two Converging Lense Questions

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of converging lenses, specifically focusing on the conditions for achieving a magnification of one and the possibility of obtaining a non-inverted image. Participants explore the implications of lens focal length and object placement in relation to image characteristics.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss methods for analyzing lens behavior, including ray diagrams and the lens formula. Questions are raised about the nature of images produced by converging lenses, particularly regarding inversion and magnification.

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The conversation includes differing viewpoints on the possibility of non-inverted images and the conditions under which a magnification of one can be achieved. Some participants provide guidance on methods to analyze the problem, while others challenge assumptions about image characteristics.

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There is an ongoing debate about the definitions of virtual images and the conditions necessary for achieving specific magnifications, with references to geometrical interpretations and graphical methods.

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For a lens of focal length f, what value of the distance between the object and the lens[D0] would give an image with a magnification of one?

Is it possible to obtain a non-inverted image with a converging spherical lens? Explain please?

Any response would be greatly appreciated, and I would like to thank anyone for their response to this thread in advance.
 
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Hi JM2107,
to answer questions like this, you could use use 2 methods:
1) Draw 3 rays, remembering that...
... focal ray becomes parallel ray
... parallel ray becomes focal ray
... central ray is not refracted
2) Use the Law of lenses: 1/o + 1/i = 1/f
where
o = distance of object from lens
i = distance of image from lens
f = focal length

Got it? :wink:
 
It is not possible to obtain a non inverted image using a single converging lens. It is therefore not possible to obtain a magnification of 1, though it is possible to obtain a magnification of -1. (Inverted images have a negative magnification by convention).

The reason for this is purely geometrical. Arcnets outlined a standard graphical method of seeing why this is.
 
Originally posted by Claude Bile
It is not possible to obtain a non inverted image using a single converging lens.
R u sure? How about a virtual image? See here...

www.lightlink.com/sergey/java/java/clens/[/URL]
 
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Here's the answer:

Yes, it is possible to obtain a non-inverted image with a converging lens. As long as the object is between the focal length point and the lens it is possible. Of course this would be a virtual image and the image would be magnified.


m=-d(image)/d(object)

If m=1 than we have an equation where we can put d (object) = - d (image). Since 1/f = 1/d (object) + 1/d (image) and since d (object) = - d (image), therefore 1/f = 0

So there is no distance that would give a magnification of one.
 

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