If there was a lot of proffiteering post 9/11

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the implications of profiteering following the events of 9/11, including the financial motivations behind military actions and the perceived corruption within political and corporate systems. Participants explore various theories and perspectives on the allocation of resources and the impact on citizens.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express outrage over perceived corruption and profiteering by politicians and corporations in the aftermath of 9/11.
  • There are suggestions that compulsory voting could empower citizens to challenge the political system, though some acknowledge that it may not prevent government misconduct.
  • Concerns are raised about the military and economic interests driving U.S. foreign policy, particularly in relation to oil and gas in the Middle East.
  • Some participants reference specific incidents, such as short-selling stocks related to the World Trade Center, as evidence of foreknowledge or exploitation of the attacks.
  • Critiques are made regarding the credibility of sources and the validity of conspiracy theories, with some participants questioning the reliability of information presented.
  • There are mentions of specific individuals, such as FBI agent John O'Neil, and questions about the lack of action taken in response to warnings prior to the attacks.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with no clear consensus on the motivations behind post-9/11 actions or the validity of various claims. Disagreements exist regarding the interpretation of events and the credibility of sources cited.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on assumptions about the motivations of political and corporate actors, and the discussion includes references to speculative theories without definitive evidence. The complexity of the issues raised may lead to differing interpretations among participants.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring the intersections of politics, economics, and ethics in the context of historical events, particularly those related to 9/11 and its aftermath.

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where did the money go and who reaped it?
:rolleyes:
This may help:

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/032504_cui_bono.html
 
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Thats Disgusting

If I was an American citizen, I'd be outraged.
Since I'm not, I say unquestioning Americans deserve to be ripped-off by their elected officials, and their bedfellows, big-business.

I mean where do politicans go after retirement from the Admin?
Straight into a cushy Corporate Board Poisition.
 
Personally I think the best thing the USA could do for itself is introduce compulsory voting, as we have here. Not that it stops our government screwing us over every way they can, but at least there is a small chance the Australian people will some day wake up and realize they have the capacity to end the two party system.
 
A conspiracy theory website tells us what of value?
 
Attacking the source, eh russ? What about the material itself?
 
Adam said:
Attacking the source, eh russ? What about the material itself?


Some news paper - Recent reports from Mars says that a purple elephant is headed towards the sun. This elephant will block out the sun, causing an ELE (extinction level event). Some unnamed citizen speculates that this is a zionist conspiracy to attack muslims via a pacaderm!

In other news, this article has as much credibility as the original posting, unless you believe that I, a lowly internet guy, can do better fact finding than all the newspaper of the world put together (including those that have a real reason to TRY to authenticate my article).
 
5) Eurasian Oil & Gas/Afghanistan & Iraq War & Occupation
The 9-11 response has been used to justify increased military, political and covert support to ensure that American and European oil interests are protected in the Middle East and worldwide.

As part of the 9-11 response, the US has invaded and occupied two sovereign nations and, in the process, increased war profiteering, narcotics trafficking and organized crime flows in these areas.

Of particular concern is the necessity that the draft will be re-instituted after the Presidential election and global invasions will continue to subsidize the war profiteering business model.

This model is essentially one in which government pays all the expenses, the citizens give their lands, lives and limbs, and the economic benefits and private booty flow to a handful of private parties and their investors. When viewed by age group, it is a war on the young by the old.
that part seems to be common sense. Hey, I remember 9/11/01, and there was a lot of short-selling of the stocks of the companies that occupied the WTC towers. It was reported shortly after the attacks, apparently by Saudi investors.
 
Still going with the fallacies.
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-ridicule.html
 
Russ is just trying to...

get this thread locked. He has no rebuttals because even the mainstream media carried the story about the put options and the selling short. On another note (I will soon start the thread). The man that knew to much FBI agent John O'Neil was assigned to the WTC shortly before the attack. Conspiricy Theorist might think it strange that someone who knew what was going on, wasn't paid any attention and when he attempted to let so called responsible people know what he had found they marginalized him then placed him in harms way almost as if they knew what was to shortly happen. Adding to that, unasked questions that the 911 members should have asked Ashcroft 'Why were you warned not to use major airlines for travel around 911?' 'Who warned you?' 'Due to the warning, why wasn't the threat level increased or activity implemented to discover what was going on?'
 

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