Force and Friction on an Inclined Plane

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a 25 kg block of ice sliding down an inclined plane, with a man applying a force to maintain constant speed. The problem includes concepts of force, friction, and equilibrium on an incline.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the block, including gravitational force, normal force, frictional force, and the applied force. There are attempts to identify these forces and their components, as well as questions about the calculations and the setup of the problem.

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Some participants have provided calculations for the forces involved and are seeking confirmation on their reasoning. Others have suggested drawing a free body diagram and applying trigonometric functions to analyze the forces more effectively. Multiple interpretations of the forces and their components are being explored.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem as presented, including the coefficient of friction and the requirement for the block to slide at a constant speed, indicating a state of equilibrium.

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This question is driving me insane please help.

A 25 kg block of ice slides down an incline 2.5 m long and 1.5 m high. A man pushes up the ice parallel to the incline so it slides down at a constant speed. The coefficient of friction between the ice and incline is 0.10. Find the force exerted by the man.
 
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wikidrox said:
A 25 kg block of ice slides down an incline 2.5 m long and 1.5 m high. A man pushes up the ice parallel to the incline so it slides down at a constant speed. The coefficient of friction between the ice and incline is 0.10. Find the force exerted by the man.
Sliding at constant speed implies equilibrium: the forces in any direction add to zero.

Start by identifying all the forces on the block of ice. I count four.
 
ok I have the same problem.

The four forces I have found are:

Fg = 147.1N (directly down)
FN = 195.9N (perpendicular to the slope)
Ff = 19.6N (up parallel the slope)
F = 147.1N (down parallel the slope)

just want to make sure here..

now I add the 4 vectors together and find out what Force I need to add (up parallel to the slope) in order to make the net force = 0

?


thanks
 
bullroar_86 said:
The four forces I have found are:

Fg = 147.1N (directly down)
FN = 195.9N (perpendicular to the slope)
Ff = 19.6N (up parallel the slope)
F = 147.1N (down parallel the slope)

now I add the 4 vectors together and find out what Force I need to add (up parallel to the slope) in order to make the net force = 0

First, you have to draw your "free body diagram". (Did you do that bullroar?)
There are trig functions that should be applied here because the block is at an incline of [tex]\theta[/tex].
Once you draw it, you should have something like::

[tex]\Sigma F_{x} = F_{g}\sin\theta + F_{push} + f_{k} = ma[/tex]
[tex]\Sigma F_{y} = n - F_{g}\cos\theta = 0[/tex]
 
bullroar_86 said:
ok I have the same problem.

The four forces I have found are:

Fg = 147.1N (directly down)
FN = 195.9N (perpendicular to the slope)
Ff = 19.6N (up parallel the slope)
F = 147.1N (down parallel the slope)
Not sure where you are getting these numbers. The four forces are:
(1) weight = mg, acting down. This will have components perpendicular and parallel to the incline. If you call the angle that the incline makes with the horizontal [itex]\theta[/itex], then [itex]W_{parallel} = mg \sin \theta[/itex] down the incline and [itex]W_{perpendicular} = mg \cos \theta[/itex] into the incline.

(2) normal force, N, which is the reaction to the forces pulling the block against the incline. [itex]N = mg \cos \theta[/itex], acting out of the plane. (This comes from setting the net force perpendicular to the plane equal to zero.)

(3) friction force = [itex]\mu N = \mu mg \cos \theta[/itex] acting up the plane.

(4) the applied force F that acts up the incline.​

To find the applied force, do as PhysicsinCalifornia advised: set the net force parallel to the plane equal to zero: [itex]mg \sin \theta - \mu mg \cos \theta - F = 0[/itex].
 

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