Distance from a point on a sphere to a point on a plane

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The discussion revolves around finding the shortest line segment from a point on a sphere defined by the equation (x-1)² + (y-2)² + (z-3)² = 9 to a point on the plane given by the equation x + 2y + 2z = 28. Participants explore various methods to approach this problem, including geometric interpretations and mathematical formulations.

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  • One participant suggests minimizing the arclength equation between points on the sphere and the plane using calculus.
  • Another participant states that the shortest segment is normal to both the plane and the sphere.
  • A participant proposes using vector calculus to find the normal to the sphere and the plane, indicating that these normals must be parallel.
  • It is suggested that drawing a straight line from the center of the sphere in the direction of the plane can help identify the endpoints of the shortest segment, assuming the plane does not intersect the sphere.
  • One participant introduces the idea of calculating the shortest distance from the plane to the sphere's center and then adjusting for the sphere's radius to find the shortest segment.
  • A later reply expresses agreement with this approach, indicating it may be a more straightforward method.

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Participants express varying methods to approach the problem, with no consensus on a single solution or method being established. Multiple competing views on how to find the shortest segment remain present.

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Some participants reference specific equations and concepts, such as the scalar projection onto the plane's normal vector, but do not provide detailed derivations or assumptions that may affect the problem's resolution.

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Readers interested in geometric optimization problems, vector calculus, and mathematical reasoning related to spheres and planes may find this discussion beneficial.

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Hi everyone here is the original question:

Find the length of the shortest line segment which can be drawn from a point on the sphere (x-1)^2 + (y-2)^2 + (z-3)^2 = 9
to a point of the plane x + 2y + 2z = 28.

I am having a lot of difficulty with this:

what I'm trying is to find some way to write the arclength equation for
all the lines between those points lying on the sphere and those in the plane,
then minimize the arclength equation using
d/dt(L(p)) = 0

How could I go about doing this problem?

The answer in the book is 8/3.
 
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The segment is normal to both the plane and the sphere.
 
ahh well that's understandable now--- but I am still stuck on it.
 
You can read off the equation of the nornal of the plane. You can use your vector calc to find the normal to the sphere, those two normal must be parallel. You can thus work out the point(s) where this normal occurs, you've then got to find the distance between two planes (the orginal, and the tangent plane to the sphere), and i'll wager there's a formula for that in your notes...
 
After you get the normal to the plane, draw a straight line from the center of the sphere along this direction toward the plane. Where this line hits the plane and the sphere will give you the end points of the shortest segment. (I am assuming the plane does not intersect the sphere).
 
My latest (and easiest) idea is:

Find the shortest length between the given plane and the sphere's center, call that D1.
Then the shortest line segment from the plane to a point on the sphere's surface is simply
D2 = D1 - radius.

There's an equation in the Stewart book for finding the shortest distance between a plane and a point, and it uses the scalar projection onto the planes normal vector.
 
yep, that seems like a much better way of doing it.
 

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