Calculating Volume by Cross-Sections: A Riemann Sums Approach

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The discussion revolves around calculating the volume of a solid whose base is defined by the equations y=abs(x)+3 and y=x^2-9, with specified limits for x. Participants explore the use of cross-sectional areas, specifically squares, and the application of Riemann sums in the volume calculation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks guidance on how to approach the problem, describing the solid's shape and its cross-sectional characteristics.
  • Another participant requests clarification on the original problem wording, suggesting the initial description may lack detail.
  • Concerns are raised about the limits of integration, with one participant questioning whether the correct limits are from 0 to 4 or -4 to 4.
  • A suggestion is made to find the centerline s(x) and to define the infinitesimal volume element as A(x)ds, where ds is derived from the derivative of s(x).
  • Clarification is provided that the problem involves finding the volume by summing the areas of square cross-sections, with a note that the integration can be performed along the centerline.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the volume can be computed by integrating the area of the squares, which is determined from their diagonal, over the specified range.

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Participants generally agree on the approach of using cross-sectional areas to calculate volume, but there is some disagreement regarding the limits of integration and the interpretation of the problem's requirements.

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There are unresolved aspects regarding the exact limits for integration and the interpretation of the problem statement, which may affect the approach to the solution.

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Does anybody know how to start to workout this problem? The region of the base of the solid is bounded by y=abs(x)+3 and y=x^2-9, with parameters x=0 and x=4. Each cross-section is a square with its diagonal on the base. It also asked something about using Rieman Sums to solve this problem. I made the solid using foams and it looked like a hoof-shaped base embeded in squares. Thanks for any help.
 
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reconmaster,

Give us the original wording of the problem. Yours is too vague.
 
1.Are you sure your limits for x is right (0<=x<=4), or are you looking only at half the figure (-4<=x<=4)?

2. In order to solve this problem, you should find the centerline s(x) first.
Then, the infinitesemal volumelement is A(x)ds, where ds is the linelength at x,
ds=sqrt(1+s'(x)^(2))dx, whereas A(x) is the cross-sectional area.
 
The problem asks to find the volume by cross-sections, and simply gave those above equations. The limits are from -4 to 4 but the final volume was asked only of x=0 and x=4. I just assumed to solve this problem you find the volume of a whole bunch of slices and add them together. Is this approach correct?
 
That's right!
Note that the cross-sectional area A(x) is a square.
(I have integrated along the curved centerline s(x))

However, by "slicing" your volume differently, you can find the volume more easily.

About the Riemann sums, this is about using infinitesemal boxes stretching up in the vertical, for example.
Hence, we are not, in that case, using a cross-section method to compute the volume.
 
the basic principle of volumes by cross sections is that the volume is the integral of the area function for a slice.
You are given that all the slices are squares and are given the diameter of every square. So just compute the area of a square from its diagonal, write that as a function of x, and integrate that function of x from x = 0 to x=4.
 

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