Is consciousness less than whole?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the nature of consciousness, specifically whether it can be considered divisible or if it exists as an all-or-nothing state. Participants explore the implications of consciousness being emergent and how it relates to physical entities and brain function.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that consciousness could be divisible and question whether its parts can be quantified or attributed to physical entities.
  • Others suggest that consciousness may be emergent in a weak sense, citing studies of brain damage that indicate significant degradation of consciousness.
  • A participant raises a concern about how studies measure degradation of consciousness, arguing that measuring brain activity does not equate to measuring consciousness itself and calls for clearer definitions.
  • Another viewpoint asserts that consciousness is not divisible, arguing that one is either conscious or unconscious, and that partial states of consciousness are not feasible.
  • This participant acknowledges variations in awareness and functioning but maintains that consciousness itself cannot be fractional.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the divisibility of consciousness, with no consensus reached on whether it can be quantified or if it exists solely as a binary state.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the definitions of consciousness and the methods used to study its degradation, which may influence the discussion.

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If consciousness is divisible, can its parts be counted mathematically, be attributed to individual physical entities, depend upon physical parameters or be considered greater as a whole than separately?
 
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Could be emergent in the weak sense. Studies of people with brain damage shows there's a lot of degradation possible.
 
selfAdjoint said:
Could be emergent in the weak sense. Studies of people with brain damage shows there's a lot of degradation possible.

Just curious. Exactly how does a study determine degradation of consciousness? It seems that we can only study brain activity and note the degradations there; which is not the same thing as measuring consciousness. Perhaps we need to sync up our definitions of this word?
 
I don't think that consciousness is divisible. I think we are either conscious or unconscious. One or the other but not partially or 1/4 conscious. We may not be fully aware or we may not be thinking or functioning normally; but, we are still conscious.
How could one be a little bit conscious. We can drift in and out of consciousness like we do with sleep in the mornings; but I can't see how we could be a little bit conscious.
 

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