Are singularities an infinitely large amount of matter

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The discussion revolves around the nature of singularities in the context of physics, specifically whether they represent an infinitely large amount of matter within an infinitely small space or if they are constrained by the Planck scale. The scope includes theoretical considerations and implications from General Relativity and Quantum Gravity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that a singularity can be defined as any amount of matter within an infinitely small amount of space.
  • Others argue that the concept of an infinitely small space conflicts with the limits imposed by Planck scale physics.
  • A later reply questions the mathematical interpretation of singularities as zero-dimensional points, suggesting that the relationship between singularities and size is not clearly defined.
  • One participant notes that current understanding is limited by the inability to probe energies near the Planck length, leaving the question of singularity size unresolved.
  • There is acknowledgment that assertions about singularities are primarily derived from General Relativity and theories like Quantum Gravity, which remain largely incomplete.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of singularities, with no consensus reached regarding their size or the implications of Planck scale physics.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on mathematical constructs from General Relativity and the unresolved status of Quantum Gravity, which affects the understanding of singularities.

Parsons
Are singularities an infinately large amount of matter within an infinately small amount of space or are they on a Planck scale?
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Theoretically, a singularity would be any amount of matter within an infinitely small amount of space.
 
Yes they are
 
Originally posted by LURCH
Theoretically, a singularity would be any amount of matter within an infinitely small amount of space.

how can a singularity be an infinetly small amount of space, when Planck Scale physics has a limit of size?
 
how can a singularity be an infinetly small amount of space, when Planck Scale physics has a limit of size?
LURCH was speaking mathematically. You see as far as we know a singularity is a zero dimensional point, it has no width, breadth or height. This knowledge comes directly from the mathematical constructs of General Relativity, Einstein’s Theory of Gravity. The Planck length as you mention is the boundary length scale at which classical notions of gravity and space-time cease to be valid and beyond the Planck length quantum effects takeover. At this point we really can’t say whether or not a singularity actually has some upper limit to its size or has no size at all. Our accelerators have not yet been able to probe the energies near the Planck length. Thus the only assertion we can make about a singularity comes from General Relativity and field theories such as Quantum Gravity, which is still largely understood. So to answer your question, maybe it does have size, but then again it might not. At this point in time we really can’t say.
 

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