Newb with AMD: Help K Set Up 1.30GHz System

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around setting up an AMD system, specifically focusing on configuring the front-side bus (FSB) settings for an AMD 3000+ processor. Participants explore issues related to system performance, cooling temperatures, and hardware compatibility, with a mix of technical advice and personal experiences.

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Main Points Raised

  • K reports having an AMD 3000+ with a BIOS reading of 1.30 GHz and seeks help on FSB settings.
  • Some participants suggest that the FSB should be set to 200 MHz for a 400 FSB Barton and 166 MHz for a 333 FSB Barton.
  • There is confusion regarding the FSB settings, with one participant correcting another about the appropriate amount to set back the FSB after overclocking attempts.
  • K mentions experiencing average CPU temperatures of 50-58°C with the retail heatsink and questions if this is normal.
  • Some participants express concern that the reported temperatures seem high for stock speeds and suggest potential solutions like using Arctic Silver thermal paste.
  • K shares that after applying Arctic Silver and realigning fans, the average temperature is now 49-51°C but still questions if this is typical for the 3000+ 333 Barton.
  • K reflects on the difference in temperatures compared to their AMD64 3200+, expressing frustration over the unexpected performance of the 3000+.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the appropriate FSB settings and the normal operating temperatures for the AMD 3000+. There is no consensus on what constitutes a normal temperature range for the CPU, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the impact of hardware configurations on temperature performance.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential influence of mixed memory speeds (DDR-400 with a 333 FSB CPU) on temperature, but this remains speculative. There are also references to personal experiences with cooling solutions, which may not generalize to all setups.

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K, My first AMD system.
I bought the MSI K7N2Delta Deluxe.
I bought an AMD 3000+
Dual 512 Corsair DDR-400
BIOS reads that I have the correct Retail CPU
100MHZ FSB?
DDR-400?
Am I missing anything?
XP says I have a nice 1.30 GHZ going.
What should my FSB be set to in the Award BIOS?
I have an AMD 64 but that was all automatic and HIGHLY easy to set up.
But I'm kinda new to the basic XP area.
Help appreciated.
-=|peace|=-
 
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You should have a 200MHz fsb.
 
If you have a 333 FSB Barton 3000+, you should set the FSB to 166, unless you want to deliberately overclock it. If you have a 400 FSB Barton 3000+, you should set (as faust9 said) the FSB to 200. Which one of these two Bartons do you have, by the way?

It seems strange that the final clock speed says 1.30 GHz. What is your multiplier set at?
 
If you are confident in your computer's cooling system, keep setting the FSB higher and higher until Windows is unable to boot. Then set the FSB back by about 10mhz.
 
10mhz would be one hundredth of a gigahertz. Maybe you meant, "...set the FSB back by about 100mhz."
 
hitssquad said:
Maybe you meant, "...set the FSB back by about 100mhz."

Why the heck would you do that? Mine was normally 166, but I have it at 205 right now. I went to 215 and Windows couldn't boot so I set it to 205. If I had set it back by 100, that would be 115mhz FSB. That would mean the system is underclock by a substantial amount.
 
Sorry. Nevermind. You were right, ShawnD. I confused FSB with final clock speed for a second there.
 
Whoa thanks for the replies!
I have the 333 mhz Barton.
Thought it was the 400mhz but uinfortunetly it wasn't.
I'm experiancing a weird thing though.
Is it normal with the Retail Heat Sync to experience 50C avg temp to 58 deg C?
I have 2 Exhaust fans and 2 Intakes.
Then 1 Fan dedicated to cooling my HDD's.
The system is my media center so to speak. heh
 
You can see what other users consider normal by reading the AMD reviews at newegg.com, but off the top of my head 50-58C for stock speed sounds high. Maybe a (very thin) coat of Arctic Silver and/or cleaning the top of the CPU would help. (Disclosure: I have only built one system and that was a Duron back in the year 2000 and not overclocked. My average CPU temperature was a little over 100 degrees F. I didn't bother trying to do anything to reduce it.)
 
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Hmmm, interesting. I just bought some Arctic silver heh. I was also thinking about picking up a Thermaltake Heatsync for improved decrease in temp. see, right now my CPU temp is 54 C. A bit high in my opinion and all I'm doing is basic Windows XP Pro processes. My CPU rises to 58 C when I'm playing Homeworld 2 or anything else that requires CPU power.
Kinda weird but I guess it's expected with an AMD. Just odd that I get these high power fluctuations with a Retail CPU as opposed to an OEM like my AMD64 which runs at 50C top. lol
Thx for the replies and help :)
 
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Avg Temp is now 49-51 deg C. I bought the Arctic Silver, realligned some Fans, but still I'm not seeing a temp decrease I'd like.
So is it normal for my 3000+ 333 Barton to run at 49-52 C Avg Temp with Retail Heat Sync? My AMD64 3200+ runs at 45 C Avg now that I applied the Silver.
Kinda odd that such a difference would exist. Could it possibly be the DDR-400 mixed with 333FSB of the CPU causing it to heat excessively?
Hmmm, I thought I was buying a 400mhz Barton. I should have double checked before I spent what I did. Bah, sucks I let myself get caught up in the Seattle Rush of things and had too much coffee. lol
 

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