Momentum of a Photon - Is My Understanding Correct?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the momentum of a photon, specifically how it is defined and calculated during interactions with other particles. Participants explore the implications of frequency changes in elastic collisions and reference concepts such as the Compton effect.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the momentum of a photon can be interpreted through the change in frequency during a collision, proposing the formula: [tex]\Delta p = \frac{h}{c}(f_2 - f_1)[/itex].
  • Another participant agrees with the momentum expression for a photon, stating it as p = E/c = hν/c, and reiterates the change in momentum formula as [tex]\Delta p = \frac{h}{c}(f_2 - f_1)[/itex>.
  • A participant expresses confusion over the explanation provided, indicating a lack of clarity in the communication of ideas.
  • Another participant explains that when a photon interacts with a particle, there is a change in energy and momentum, referencing the Compton effect to illustrate this point.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express similar formulas for photon momentum and changes in momentum, but there is some confusion and lack of clarity in communication, indicating that the discussion remains somewhat unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of missing assumptions regarding the nature of the collisions and the definitions of terms used, which may affect the clarity of the discussion.

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This thing has troubled me for a long time.. but i think this is eventually starting to get clear to me.

When we say a photon has a momentum 'p', the momentum isn't it's mass times the velocity.. but it can be interpreted as: If the photon [having frequency [itex]f_1[/itex]] collides with any other particle, and an elastic collision takes place.. and it's frequency now is [itex]f_2[/itex], then the momentum imparted to the particle is: [tex]\Delta p = \frac{h}{c}(f_2 - f_1)[/itex]<br /> <br /> am i right?[/tex]
 
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For a photon, momentum, p = E/c = h[itex]\nu[/itex]/c, and a change would be given by

[tex]\Delta p = \frac{h}{c}{(f_2 - f_1)}[/tex], where h/c is a constant. I used nu for frequency f.
 
Astronuc said:
For a photon, momentum, p = E/c = h[itex]\nu[/itex]/c, and a change would be given by

[tex]\Delta p = \frac{h}{c}{(f_2 - f_1)}[/tex], where h/c is a constant. I used nu for frequency f.

well.. i actually.. said the same thing. I don't get what you were trying to explain. Can u please explain? thanks.
 
rohanprabhu said:
well.. i actually.. said the same thing. I don't get what you were trying to explain. Can u please explain? thanks.
I was explaining that a photon of energy E and a momentum of p = E/c. When a photon scatters (interacts with a particle), there will a change in energy and momentum, and the change in p = (Ei - Ef)/c. This is demonstrated in the Compton effect.
 

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