Need to solve the following differential equation

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The discussion revolves around solving a specific differential equation involving variables k, v, and B, with given conditions for v at specific times. Participants explore methods for finding the constants c and B, considering the implications of the equation's non-linearity.

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Main Points Raised

  • Simon presents a differential equation and suggests using separation of variables and integration to solve it, proposing an equation involving arctan.
  • One participant points out that since k is negative, the solution should involve an inverse hyperbolic tangent instead of arctan, and notes a potential error in Simon's formulation regarding k.
  • Another participant clarifies that the constant c mentioned by Simon is likely the constant of integration and provides an alternative expression involving hyperbolic functions.
  • Some participants suggest trying a "homogeneous + particular" approach to solve the equation.
  • However, a counterpoint is raised that this approach is not applicable due to the non-linear nature of the equation, emphasizing that linear methods cannot be used for non-linear equations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriate methods for solving the differential equation, with some supporting the use of hyperbolic functions and others emphasizing the limitations of linear approaches. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best method to apply.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of the variables and the implications of the non-linearity of the equation. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of the mathematical steps involved.

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Sorry if this is in the wrong section, I wasn't sure where to post it.

Can anyone help me - I need to solve the following differential equation and find the values of c and B.

> k is given as -98.3146.
> v = 55 when t = 9
> v = 50 when t = 10

k(v^2) + B = m.(dv/dt)

Am I right in thinking that by separation of variables and integration I get

arctan(v/sqrt(B/k))=kt/m + c

??

But then if so, how do I find the values of c and B?

Thanks for any help,

Simon.
 
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Your solution would be OK, except that k is negative. Note that you are taking the square root of k. The proper way to do this gets you an inverse hyperbolic tangent, not an arctan.

Also, your k on the rhs should be sqrt(Bk)
 
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First, I don't see any C in the equation to solve, so I assume it's the constant of integration.
I got:
[tex]\frac{\sqrt{B}}{\sqrt{k}}\tanh{\frac{\sqrt{B}\sqrt{k}\cdot t+C \sqrt{B}\sqrt{k}\cdot m}{m}}[/tex]
 
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You could also try the "homogeneous + particular" approach.
 
eJavier said:
You could also try the "homogeneous + particular" approach.

No, you can't because this is a non-linear equation. The whole point of linear equations is that you can solve separate parts of the problem, then put them together. With non-linear equations you can't do that.
 
HallsofIvy said:
No, you can't because this is a non-linear equation. The whole point of linear equations is that you can solve separate parts of the problem, then put them together. With non-linear equations you can't do that.

Yes, you're right. :blush:
 

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