Magnetic fields, current and resistance

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

This discussion focuses on determining the safe current capacity of wire used in electromagnets powered by 9-volt batteries. The key takeaway is that wire sizing for safety can be assessed using the concept of circular mils, with a recommendation of at least 200 mils per amp. Additionally, connecting batteries in parallel is preferred for maximizing current capacity, while series connections increase voltage but can lead to overheating. The ideal solenoid equation indicates that adding more turns does not significantly affect the magnetic field strength due to increased resistance.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of wire gauge and its relation to current capacity
  • Familiarity with Ohm's Law (E = IR)
  • Basic knowledge of electromagnetism and solenoid principles
  • Experience with battery configurations (series vs. parallel)
NEXT STEPS
  • Research wire gauge specifications and their current ratings
  • Learn about calculating resistance per foot for different wire types
  • Explore the effects of battery configurations on circuit performance
  • Investigate methods for experimentally determining wire current limits
USEFUL FOR

This discussion is beneficial for electrical engineers, hobbyists working with electromagnets, and anyone interested in optimizing circuit designs involving batteries and wire safety.

cephas
Messages
10
Reaction score
0
How do I determine how much current a wire can safely handle? I made some electromagnets with some coil and 9 volt batteries, but the wire and the batteries get real hot after a minute, which I assume is not good so i don't keep it connected for long. I want to know how much the wire I am using can take. The only thing on the package it came in was what gauge it is, but I thought that related to size not how much it could take. Is there a way to experimentally determine it?

Also is connecting batteries in series or parallel better (for getting more voltage)?

And finally, for the ideal solenoid B=u0in where i is current, and n is turns per unit length: if voltage through the coil is constant then does just adding more turns get canceled out from the decrease in current due to more wire and hence more resistance so B would remain the same?
 
Engineering news on Phys.org
Wire sizing for safety can be found by finding how many circular mils are carrying per amp, and you'd likely want 200 mils as an absolute minimum per amp. Here's a page with a chart near the bottom (and all kinds of info on the way to it) that lists popular gauges and their mils and resistance per foot.
http://www.bcae1.com/wire.htm

Batteries in series will double voltage capability, batteries in parallel will double current capacity. BUT you have a fixed resistance, and from E = IR you know if you double the voltage the current must double as well which means 4 times the power. Not going to work for you especially if you're already cooking your 9V battery. You're going to be better off in parallel so the batteries can work together to deliver the current.

You're voltage through your coil is not going to be constant when overloading a battery like this (getting warm=overload) and usually you can provide many more turns without the resistance changing much. You could get the resistance per foot and find the diameter of a turn and calculate this yourself.

Cliff
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
3K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
6K
  • · Replies 19 ·
Replies
19
Views
3K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
4K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 37 ·
2
Replies
37
Views
5K
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 23 ·
Replies
23
Views
6K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K