Maximizing Intensity of Transmitted Light in Polarization Disks

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving three polarization disks and the transmission of unpolarized light through them. The first disk is fixed at an angle of 10 degrees from the vertical, the second disk's angle is variable (theta), and the third disk is fixed at 120 degrees from the vertical. The goal is to determine the angle theta that maximizes the intensity of light transmitted through the third disk.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the intensities at each disk and the angles involved. There is a debate on whether to take a derivative of the intensity function to find the maximum or to graph the function instead. Some participants express confusion about the role of the angles and the implications of setting theta equal to certain values.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and the relationships between the angles and intensities. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculation of intensities, but no consensus has been reached on the best method to find the optimal angle theta.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the angles of the first and third disks are fixed, while the angle of the second disk is variable. There is also mention of potential confusion regarding the mathematical representation of the equations involved.

Will
I am studying for our final, and there is this problem that is confusing me.

There are three disks, with transmission axis of the 1st being 10 deg. from the vertical, the 2nd at an angle theta from the vertical, and the 3rd at an angle 120 deg from the vertical. Unpolarized light, I(0) is incident on the first disk,. We need to find the angle theta for 2nd disk so that transmitied light from 3rd disk is of max intensity.
So I know that the unpolarized light automatically loses 1/2 of its intensity; I(1)=I(0)/2 and that the intensity of I(3) is given by [I(0)/2]cos^2(theta-10)cos^2(120-theta). I think the formula is correct. So how should I go about finding the max? Should I take the derivative of this function and find the zeros, or is there a better way?
 
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Hi,

You do not need to take a derivative. The outgoing beam of the first polarizer is the incoming beam for the second, and so on. The I0 for each polarizer is the incoming beam for that polarizer. So, your I0 for the second is simply your answer for the first.
 
Will

Still don't quite get it. I(1) emegerges out with a polarized at an angle 10 degrees to the vertical. It then goes through disk 2, which makes a variable angle( the one we need to solve for), and emerges as I(2) with intensity I(1)cos^2(theta-10), right? Then it goes thru disk 3 and emerges with I(3)=I(2)cos^2(120-theta.
If I set theta equal to 10 degrees, I get maximum transmission of I(2). But when it gose thru I(3), cos^2(120-10) is small, so I get a low transmission. So I think I need to find an angle in the somewhere in between 10 and 120 dgrees. Perhaps I was unclear on my wording of the problem, the axis of the first and third disk are fixed , at 10 and 120 respectively, and the angle of the second is variable.

ps how do you make subscripts, and for that matter "pretty print" equations?
 


Originally posted by Will
I(1) emegerges out with a polarized at an angle 10 degrees to the vertical. It then goes through disk 2, which makes a variable angle( the one we need to solve for), and emerges as I(2) with intensity I(1)cos^2(theta-10), right?

Right.

Then it goes thru disk 3 and emerges with I(3)=I(2)cos^2(120-theta.
If I set theta equal to 10 degrees, I get maximum transmission of I(2). But when it gose thru I(3), cos^2(120-10) is small, so I get a low transmission. So I think I need to find an angle in the somewhere in between 10 and 120 dgrees. Perhaps I was unclear on my wording of the problem, the axis of the first and third disk are fixed , at 10 and 120 respectively, and the angle of the second is variable.

Oops...I made a mistake. I misread your problem, and you were right initially: You do need to take a derivative. Either that, or graph the function to find the peak.

You have:

I2(θ)=I0cos2(θ-10o)

and

I3(θ)=I2(θ)cos2(120o-θ)

which you should rewrite as:

I3(θ)=I0cos2(θ-10o)cos2(120o-θ)

ps how do you make subscripts,

Example: Type

I[ sub ]0[ /sub ]

without the spaces to get:

I0

Replace sub with sup for superscripts.

and for that matter "pretty print" equations?

Look at the Announcement at the top of all the science forums:

Howto: Making Math Symbols.

You can also get math symbols by clicking "Get More" on the smiley menu, but they do not look as good as the ones in the Announcement.
 

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