Secular reading at baccalaureate. Give me suggestions.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the inclusion of a secular reading at a baccalaureate service, prompted by concerns over the religious nature of the event. Participants share personal experiences, seek suggestions for appropriate readings, and explore the nature of the baccalaureate ceremony itself.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses discomfort with the religious aspects of the baccalaureate service and seeks suggestions for a secular reading, preferably from literature or philosophy.
  • Another participant shares a personal anecdote about skipping the baccalaureate service and receiving awards at graduation, suggesting that attendance may not be necessary.
  • A participant questions the nature of the baccalaureate service, wondering if it relates to the International Baccalaureate (IB) program.
  • Several participants recommend the works of Tolstoy, noting their dramatic insights into political and social issues, while acknowledging that Tolstoy was a Christian.
  • One participant offers to find the title of a specific Tolstoy book that contains short essays, indicating a willingness to assist in the search for a suitable reading.
  • Another participant mentions that the baccalaureate ceremony is a more formal graduation event and notes attempts to include both a minister and a rabbi as speakers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the necessity of attending the baccalaureate service, with differing opinions on its value and the appropriateness of including a secular reading.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the specific nature and traditions of the baccalaureate service, as well as the appropriateness of various literary works given the religious context.

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Since it is "highly recommended" that all seniors attend the baccalaureate service after my high school graduation, and since the religious nature of such a service makes me uncomfortable, I was thinking of asking the principal to include a secular reading at the baccalaureate. If she agrees, I'll need to find an appropriate short reading (an excerpt from a novel or a section from a philosophical work, preferably). Any ideas?
 
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No suggestion here, but listen to this story: We had baccalaureate the day before graduation. I've never really cared about getting awards in front of a crowd, they just aren't a big deal to me. So I didn't go. The next day at graduation our key speaker was the governor of Nevada. Before they started handing out diplomas the governor called me up and gave me my awards and scholarships himself. I was the only one singled out like that so I suggest skipping baccalaureate altogether.
 
tribdog said:
No suggestion here, but listen to this story: We had baccalaureate the day before graduation. I've never really cared about getting awards in front of a crowd, they just aren't a big deal to me. So I didn't go. The next day at graduation our key speaker was the governor of Nevada. Before they started handing out diplomas the governor called me up and gave me my awards and scholarships himself. I was the only one singled out like that so I suggest skipping baccalaureate altogether.

Haha. That's pretty damn awesome.
 
What is a baccalaureate service? Does it have something to do with the IB program?
 
zk4586 said:
Since it is "highly recommended" that all seniors attend the baccalaureate service after my high school graduation, and since the religious nature of such a service makes me uncomfortable, I was thinking of asking the principal to include a secular reading at the baccalaureate. If she agrees, I'll need to find an appropriate short reading (an excerpt from a novel or a section from a philosophical work, preferably). Any ideas?

The works of Tolstoy are magnificent. I suggest his book (if which I am unable to recall the name of). His works concern political + social works and his insight into it all is very dramatic and has been admired. My sister read it at a very young age, and is still amazed by the book. The book consists of short essays.
If you wish for me to find out the title (which will be no trouble at all, I assure you), please say so. :biggrin:
 
Imparcticle said:
The works of Tolstoy are magnificent. I suggest his book (if which I am unable to recall the name of). His works concern political + social works and his insight into it all is very dramatic and has been admired. My sister read it at a very young age, and is still amazed by the book. The book consists of short essays.
If you wish for me to find out the title (which will be no trouble at all, I assure you), please say so. :biggrin:

That'd be great. Yes, please. Though Tolstoy was a Christian.

And in response to your question, it's just a more formal graduation ceremony. I don't really understand it myself. But apparently they're trying to get both a minister and a rabbi to speak.
 
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Even better! I just found the whole book online. Here's the address (by the way, this site is my favorite. It has a ton of books online from charles dickens to plato.):

http://www.readprint.com/work-1432/Leo-Tolstoy

okay, now all you have to do is pick a chapter.
 

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