Designing a Vibration Absorber for a Two Degree of Freedom System

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The discussion revolves around the design of a vibration absorber for a two degree of freedom system, specifically aimed at reducing machine vibrations by approximately 60%. Participants are addressing the equations of motion, natural frequencies, and the formulation of matrices related to the system dynamics.

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  • One participant presents the equations of motion for both the machine and the absorber, seeking assistance in formulating a two degree of freedom system.
  • Another participant expresses confusion regarding the calculation of the absorber's natural frequency to match the excitation frequency, indicating a lack of experience in vibrations.
  • A later post confirms the equations of motion and attempts to express them in matrix form, while also seeking guidance on finding the eigenvalues.
  • One participant questions the clarity of the problem, emphasizing the need for specific details such as the frequency at which the 60% reduction is desired and the nature of the isolator.
  • Another participant suggests that the matrix equations presented are correct and provides a method for determining the natural frequencies, while requesting clarification on the system's parameters.
  • One participant points out a potential error in the determinant equation for finding eigenvalues, suggesting a correction involving damping terms.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about the necessity of a two degree of freedom analysis given the described system, questioning the roles of the parameters m2, c2, and k2.

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Participants exhibit uncertainty and confusion regarding the system's parameters and the design requirements. There is no consensus on the approach to take or the specifics of the system being analyzed.

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Participants have not fully defined the assumptions regarding the system components, such as the nature of the isolator and the parameters involved. The discussion reflects a mix of theoretical and practical considerations without resolving the underlying uncertainties.

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I'm trying to design a vibration absorber that will reduce the vibration of a machine by about 60%. I found the equations of motion of the machine without the absorber to be..
c1x1’+m1x1”+k1x1+k2(x1-x2)+c2(x1’-x2’)=Fosinwt
and the absorber alone to be..
m1x2”+k2(x1-x2)+c2(x2’-x1’)=0

How do I do a two degree of freedom system (the machine and absorber together)? I have to calculate the natural frequencies and write the equations of motion in matirx form, and find the K and M matrices, form M^(-1)*K, and for designed k2 and c2, find the eigenvalues of M^(-1)*K. I really don't have much experience with this area, can someone please help me?
 
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please help me. I should also calculate k2 so that the natural frequency of the absorber is equal to the excitation frequency. I'm so confused with vibrations.
 
Is this right so far?

equations of motion….
c1x1’+m1x1”+k1x1+k2(x1-x2)+c2(x1’-x2’)=Fosinwt
m1x2”+k2(x1-x2)+c2(x2’-x1’)=0

matrix form…
[m1 0] [x1”] + [c1+c2 ...-c2][x1’] + [k1+k2...k1-k2][x1] =[Fosinwt]
[0 m2] [x2”]...[-c2 ...c2]*[x2’]...[k2...-k2][x2]...[ 0 ]
(sorry about the periods, but this board messes up my format in the matrix)

finding eigenvalues…
det[(M^-1)K-Ilambda]=0

[((k1+k2)/m1)-lambda k1-k2] =0
[k2/m2 (-k2/m2)-lambda]


how do I find k2 so that I can get my eigenvalues?
 
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please help!
 
It's not clear what you have and what needs to be designed. Also, when you say 60% reduction in amplitude, you need to specify at what frequency. Any isolator will give you attenuation only at frequencies above the natural frequency - in this case there are 2 - and the transmissibility is a function of frequency.

Do you have a real machine and a real isolator, or is this just a theoretical problem ? What does the isolator consist of ?

My understanding so far is that you've got m1, m2, k1, c1, and you need to design k2, c2. But if you have an isolator, that fixes k2, c2 and m2. But you seem to have m2. Where does that come from ?

Or you probably don't have an isolator, and want to design one... I'm not sure.

Anyway, your matrix equations are correct so far. To get the 2 natural frequencies, solve :

det|[K] - [M]w^2| = 0

This gives you w1 and w2 in terms of m2, k2 and c2. For a good isolator design, you want w1 and w2 to be as small as possible - preferably small compared to the typical driving frequency w0. So you pick m2, k2 and c2 accordingly, ie. to minimize the w's.

Before I go on, I'd like you to answer the questions I've asked 'cause this may be completely along the wrong track.
 
Errata : I think you want det|[K] - [M]w^2 + iw[C]| = 0
 
Actually, I'm more confused than I let on. If you have just one mass (the machine - the isolator is relatively light) and one isolator, why are you doing 2 dof analysis ? What are m2, c2 and k2 ? I guess need to know what your system really is like.
 

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