In-Phase and Out-Phase Wave Interference: What Happens?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the interference of traveling and standing waves, particularly focusing on the effects of phase angles in wave interactions. Participants explore the implications of phase differences when waves travel in the same or opposite directions, examining both theoretical and practical aspects of wave behavior.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a traveling wave equation and notes that two waves with a phase angle of 180 degrees cancel each other out, while a phase angle of 0 or 360 degrees results in doubled amplitudes.
  • Another participant explains the formation of standing waves from two waves traveling in opposite directions, using the principle of superposition to illustrate the resulting wave equation.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the role of phase angles in understanding wave behavior, indicating a need for further clarification.
  • Several links to external resources on standing waves and resonance are shared, suggesting a variety of educational materials available for deeper exploration of the topic.
  • One participant introduces a discussion on atomic-scale wave behavior, relating it to the concept of standing waves and eigenstates, although this seems to diverge from the primary focus on classical wave interference.
  • A participant acknowledges the complexity of the provided resources and expresses gratitude for the information, indicating a need for time to digest the material.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the role of phase angles in wave interference, with some expressing confusion and seeking clarification. Multiple viewpoints and resources are presented, but no definitive agreement is established.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions may depend on specific definitions of wave properties and the mathematical treatment of wave equations. The relationship between phase angles and wave behavior remains partially unresolved, with varying interpretations among participants.

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Given a traveling wave [itex]W=Asin(\omega t + \phi)[/itex], where A is the amplitude, [itex]\omega[/itex] is the angular frequnecy, t is the time variable, and [itex]\phi[/itex] is the phase angle.

For two waves of the same properties and traveling in the same direction, the waves vanish if the phase angle is 180 degrees. The amplitudes are doubled if the phase angle is zero or 360 degrees.

For two waves of the same properties and traveling in opposite directions, the waves formed standing waves if the phase angle is 180 degrees. What happens when the phase angle is zero or 360 degrees?
 
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A traveling wave moves from one place to another, whereas a standing wave appears to stand still, vibrating in place. Two waves (with the same amplitude, frequency, and wavelength) are traveling in opposite directions on a string. Using the principle of superposition, the resulting string displacement may be written as:

y(x,t) = y_m sin(kx - wt) + y_m sin(kx + wt)

= 2y_m sin(kx) cos(wt)



This wave is no longer a traveling wave because the position and time dependence have been separated. The displacement of the string as a function of position has an amplitude of 2y_m sin(kx). This amplitude does not travel along the string, but stands still and oscillates up and down according to cos(wt). Characteristic of standing waves are locations with maximum displacement (antinodes) and locations with zero displacement (nodes).


 
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Russell,

Thanks. But I still can't see where the phase angle fit into the overall picture of the wave whether traveling or standing.
 
Wave Tutorials:


http://www.physicsclassroom.com/Class/waves/wavestoc.html

http://www.physicsclassroom.com/Class/waves/U10L4a.html

http://www.learningincontext.com/Chapt08.htm




Standing Waves:

http://www.oreilly.cx/phi/combining_waves/standing_waves.html

http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_spherical.htm

http://www.upscale.utoronto.ca/IYearLab/Intros/StandingWaves/StandingWaves.html

http://id.mind.net/~zona/mstm/physics/waves/standingWaves/standingWaves1/StandingWaves1.html

http://www.upscale.utoronto.ca/IYearLab/Intros/StandingWaves/StandingWaves.html



Resonance:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/sound/reson.html#resdef

http://www.colorado.edu/physics/2000/microwaves/standing_wave2.html

http://www.pha.jhu.edu/~broholm/l29/node4.html


Damped Harmonic Oscillator:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/oscda.html#c1
 
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Another Standing Wave Tutorial:

http://hypertextbook.com/physics/waves/standing/index.shtml



On the atomic scale, it is usually more appropriate to describe the electron as a wave than as a particle. The square of an electron's wave equation gives the probability function for locating the electron in any particular region. The orbitals used by chemists describe the shape of the region where there is a high probability of finding a particular electron. Electrons are confined to the space surrounding a nucleus in much the same manner that the waves in a guitar string are constrained within the string. The constraint of a string in a guitar forces the string to vibrate with specific frequencies. Likewise, an electron can only vibrate with specific frequencies. In the case of an electron, these frequencies are called eigenfrequencies and the states associated with these frequencies are called eigenstates or eigenfunctions. The set of all eigenfunctions for an electron form a mathematical set called the spherical harmonics. There are an infinite number of these spherical harmonics, but they are specific and discrete. That is, there are no in-between states. Thus an atomic electron can only absorb and emit energy in specific in small packets called quanta. It does this by making a quantum leap from one eigenstate to another. This term has been perverted in popular culture to mean any sudden, large change. In physics, quite the opposite is true. A quantum leap is the smallest possible change of system, not the largest.


 
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Russell,

Thanks. These are more than what I can chew in one setting. I have to take sometime going through the details. Again, thank you for your overwhelming response.
 

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