First Photo of planet circling another star

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The discussion revolves around the first image purportedly capturing a planet orbiting another star, specifically a white dwarf located approximately 100 light-years away. Participants explore the implications of this discovery, the reliability of the data, and the identification of the star involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the object in the image is reported to be 5-10 times the mass of Jupiter, but caution is expressed regarding its classification as a planet versus a background object.
  • There is speculation about the identity of the white dwarf star, with questions raised about whether it is uncataloged or if its name is being withheld pending further publication.
  • One participant humorously suggests that it might be considered irresponsible journalism to disclose the star's name before notifying its "next-of-kin."
  • Another participant points out inconsistencies between different reports regarding the distance of the white dwarf star, suggesting that further observations over time may clarify the object's status.
  • There is a discussion about the potential to locate the star using public resources, with inquiries about whether the white dwarf has a catalog name or number.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the classification of the object as a planet and the specifics of the white dwarf star's identity. Multiple competing views remain about the reliability of the reports and the implications of the findings.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in the available data, including inconsistencies in reported distances and the need for further observations to confirm the object's status. There is also mention of potential dependencies on cataloging and observational techniques.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3707185.stm

The historic first image of a planet circling another star may have been taken by the Hubble Space Telescope.

The "planet", 5-10 times the mass of Jupiter, is orbiting a small white dwarf star about 100 light-years away.

Astronomers are being cautious, saying they require more data to be sure it really is a planet and not a background object caught in the same field of view.
 
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Here is a bit more:

Pushing the Limit: Possible First Photo of Extrasolar Planet -->
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mystery_monday_040510.html

This star is uncataloged? Or are the reporters politely holding off telling the star's identity until Debes and associates can publish?

Quart
 
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I think it's just considered irresponsible journalism to release the star's name until after its next-of-kin can be notified:biggrin:.

Awesome photo, if it's true!
 
quartodeciman said:
Here is a bit more:

Pushing the Limit: Possible First Photo of Extrasolar Planet -->
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mystery_monday_040510.html
...

great news thanks to you both
any other links besides Quart's and pelastration's
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3707185.stm
?

John Debes
grad student at Penn State
apparently works for Steinn Sigurdsson, in a group doing this
maybe a search by names will turn up more
 
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I notice that there's an inconsistency between the two reports; one says the WD star is "about 100 light-years away", the other "The object is one of three planet candidates found in the new study around white dwarf stars between 30 and 55 light-years away". If it's the latter, and at the lower limit, it might appear in the http://www.chara.gsu.edu/RECONS/ .

Note also that waiting to see how the object moves, wrt the WD, over the next few months/years will certainly rule it out as a possible orbiting planet (if the motion is clearly inconsistent with an orbit), but won't necessarily confirm its status (relative motion that mimics a ~30 au planetary orbit is unlikely, but not impossible).

Using only public resources, it may be possible to find where this star is, to within a few arcmins; anyone like to say how?

Does the WD have a catalogue name/number (apart from any which Debes gave it)? Almost certainly! The HST needs to know where to look, so if Debes et al had a target list of 7 WDs, it most likely came from a bigger catalogue. But is the catalogue a 'niche' one? or a broad one? In the RECONS database, the absolute magnitude of the WDs is between ~11 and 15; at ~10pc, the Debes WD may be in a broad catalogue (and may even have been observed by HIPPARCOS!); at ~30pc, it may be too faint to appear in any broad catalogue.
 
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