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| Jan16-09, 02:26 PM | #18 |
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How is instinct possible? |
| Jan16-09, 02:49 PM | #19 |
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| Jan16-09, 02:52 PM | #20 |
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| Jan16-09, 04:47 PM | #21 |
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| Jan16-09, 05:11 PM | #22 |
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I'd like to add here that there are physiological reactions that are inheritable - not instinctual. For example (probably due to some Native American heritage on both sides of my family) I cannot be poisoned by mushrooms. I am acutely sensitive to the taste of alkaloids and experience a most revolting gut-wrenching bitterness at exposure levels that most people can't detect. I found this out when participating in a genetics program as a biology student. While undergoing genetic screening with a whole bunch of other "guinea pigs" we had to file through a station at which you were told to touch a piece of blotter paper to your tongue, and write down your impression. Every single person in front of me (that I could see) simply went through the station and shrugged (or less) and wrote something on their clip-board. When I tasted the paper, I retched and thought I might puke - it was that bad.
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| Jan16-09, 05:43 PM | #23 |
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Personally, I must have genes that regulate my gag reflex to "Cherry Jack"... (some kind of sick winey kind of booze) |
| Jan16-09, 11:39 PM | #24 |
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Well, considering this is a pressing issue in the Neurodevelopmental Biology community that has yet to be answered, I suggest to you that you will receive no simple answer as to how an instinct is coded for. To begin with Neurodevelopment is dependent on plenty signaling mechanisms that code for the massive amount of differentiation in the CNS. I'd hypothesize, as I really don't know a lot about the subject, that instinctual behaviors, such as FAPs, are resultant of the intrinsic nature of the neural network of an organism. Neural development is not exactly replicable in the sense of one hundred percent spatial conservation across individuals in a population, but it is similar in a sense, for instance cells regulate the amount of synapses of different types of neurons that connect to them, in terms of overall surface area. So I'd expect that these genes are responsible for the overall development of the organism's instincts would be those that code for the signaling proteins in the pathways that would control cytoskeletal elements, or the other large number of pathways that may be implicated by my previous very blanket-like statement.
Genes do code for instincts, but not in a very 1:1 type of way. For instance, look at autism, specifically Fragile X. The loss of a single protein causes major defects in physical appearance, retardation, problems with blood glucose regulation, and I'm sure, much more which has not been yet elucidated or that I'm forgetting. |
| Jan17-09, 01:28 AM | #25 |
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The brain uses DNA methylation to store memories, so that they can be copied as well. That is probably the basis of fear instincts as well in our more primitive brains.
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| Jan22-09, 05:27 PM | #26 |
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Thanks. |
| Jan23-09, 12:59 AM | #27 |
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If I had to guess, it influences the expression of genes that control axon formation.
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| Jan23-09, 02:50 AM | #28 |
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| Feb9-09, 08:10 PM | #29 |
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first, in regard to the bird migration topic, i think we would have to know: if you took a bird egg and raised the bird for a couple years then released it (and it didnt join a group) would it still fly to the same spot as the rest of its species?
im sure that is known, but i do not. so, if the bird did not fly to the same spot, i think that would mean it has nothing to do with instinct, rather it is socially learned, in the form of following the old wise bird that followed the old wise bird that followed... and then the original old wise bird most likely figured it out from observing its environment, as in, movement and position of the sun in the sky. birds are very keen observers of the sun, they sit and stare at it during sunsets. hopefully someone here has studied birds and can shed some light on my speculation. now for human instincts, i have thought about this a few times since a friend told me he had a college 'professor' that claimed we have no instincts. one i came up with that i think is pretty solid is: if a baby was born in a cave and it could see the opening where the light comes from, and you never let it see you leave or enter the cave, when left alone and able to move by itself it would surely move toward the light (energy) as opposed to into the dark cold cave. the point im trying to make there is that for the sake of survival the baby moves toward warmth, not to mention our other many connections to light and the sun. also, another one i just considered is, babies being able to swim, has this not been shown to be an instinct? i dont know. :) |
| Apr3-10, 08:42 AM | #30 |
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