Iron Fusion in Stars: Uncovering the Mysteries of Heavy Elements on Earth

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The discussion revolves around the formation of heavy elements on Earth, particularly in the context of iron fusion in stars. Participants explore the origins of these elements, their presence on Earth despite their short half-lives, and the processes that lead to their creation, including stellar events like supernovae.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question how heavier elements can exist on Earth if iron is considered the last stage of fusion in stars, suggesting a need for clarification on the origins of these elements.
  • One participant asserts that all plutonium used in modern nuclear industries is produced by bombarding uranium with slow neutrons, implying that naturally occurring plutonium is not present in significant quantities.
  • Another participant proposes that naturally occurring elements heavier than iron result from energetic cosmological events, such as supernovae, which create these heavier elements through the energies released during such phenomena.
  • A participant discusses the concept of half-life, explaining that it reflects the statistical probability of decay, suggesting that elements can persist for longer periods than their half-lives might indicate.
  • A later reply corrects a terminology issue, clarifying that the term "supernova" is more appropriate than "nova" when discussing the events that create heavier elements.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the presence and formation of heavy elements on Earth, with no consensus reached regarding the specifics of their origins or the implications of half-lives.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the processes of element formation and the conditions under which heavy elements can exist on Earth, particularly in relation to their half-lives and the nature of stellar events.

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[SOLVED] Iron Fusion In Stars

If iron is said to be the last stage of fusion in stars, how is it that heavier elements are found on earth, where there seems to be less likely a chance for such fusion to occur? Where do these elements come from? Moreover, the half-life of a heavy element on the order of plutonium is only 24,000 years--how did such an element wind up on Earth in quantities that can be excavated? How is it that these elements were created?
 
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Originally posted by Atload
If iron is said to be the last stage of fusion in stars, how is it that heavier elements are found on earth, where there seems to be less likely a chance for such fusion to occur? Where do these elements come from? Moreover, the half-life of a heavy element on the order of plutonium is only 24,000 years--how did such an element wind up on Earth in quantities that can be excavated? How is it that these elements were created?
http://aether.lbl.gov/www/tour/elements/stellar/stellar_a.html

And:

http://photon.phys.clemson.edu/wwwpages/StarLife.html
 
Originally posted by Atload
Moreover, the half-life of a heavy element on the order of plutonium is only 24,000 years--how did such an element wind up on Earth in quantities that can be excavated?

It doesn't. All the plutonium used in today's nuclear industries is bred by bombarding uranium with slow neutrons.
 
Naturally occurring elements heavier then Iron are a result of a star going Nova or other such energetic cosomologic events. The energies present in such an event create the heavier elements.
 
how did such an element wind up on Earth in quantities that can be excavated?
The half life is a measure of the exponential decay of these elements. It is a record of how often they randomly decay, a matter of statistical probability than absolute. In two half lives, you have a quarter of the atoms still around. So, the element can last for a very long time with a relatively short half-life. Just significantly smaller numbers than originally.
 
Originally posted by Integral
Naturally occurring elements heavier then Iron are a result of a star going Nova or other such energetic cosomologic events. The energies present in such an event create the heavier elements.

supernova...not nova
(different phenomena, but similar names)
 

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