CO2 in Earth's Crust: Comparing Levels to the Atmosphere

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The discussion revolves around comparing the levels of carbon dioxide (CO2) in the Earth's crust to those in the Earth's atmosphere. Participants explore the nature of carbon storage in various forms and seek specific quantitative data regarding CO2 concentrations in the crust.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that while the atmosphere contains approximately 0.035% CO2, there is a lack of information on CO2 levels in the Earth's crust.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the discussion should focus on carbon in general rather than just gaseous CO2, mentioning that much carbon is stored as limestone or marble.
  • A later reply highlights the importance of defining "crust" and the forms of carbon dioxide being considered, questioning whether to include groundwater, gases in solution, hydrocarbon reservoirs, or gases in soil pore volume.
  • Concerns are raised about the physical distinctions between different forms of carbon dioxide and the challenges in measuring them accurately, suggesting that the distinctions among oxidation states of carbon complicate the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definitions and measurements of CO2 in the Earth's crust, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a consensus on the topic.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the ambiguity in definitions of "crust" and "carbon dioxide," as well as the challenges in distinguishing between various forms of carbon and their states in geological contexts.

nautica
Which has the most CO2. The Earths Crust or the Earth's atmosphere. I know the atmosphere contains only .035%, but I can find any info on the amount of CO2 in the Earth's crust.

thanks
Nautica
 
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Well, its basically about the element carbon, not gasseous carbon dioxide. The bulk of the carbon is stored on Earth, as forms of limestone or marble, chemically a bond of carbon dioxide and calcium oxide: CO2 + CaO -> CaCO3

This may be a very informative http://www.oznet.ksu.edu/ctec/Carbon/carboncycle.htm

However it overlooks one big carbon store: the clathrate on the ocean bottoms, estimated about 11,000 gigatons.

Curiously enough is that the total amount of carbon in the CO2 of the atmosphere of Venus is about the same as all the carbon in the Earth crust.
 
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I have seen the numbers on carbon and I understand the relationship. But, I am looking for actual numbers on CO2 in the Earths crust.

thanks
nautica
 
Might help if you state your definition of "crust" for this question, and that for carbon dioxide. Including ground water and gases in solution, or not? Including hydrocarbon reservoirs and associated gases, or not? Including gases in soil pore volume, or not?

Physically, the distinction between carbon dioxide in limestone as a distinct chemical species from carbon dioxide dissolved in crustal rock (with a hell of a large heat of solution) doesn't exist.

You're going to be limited to making distinctions among oxidation states of carbon, reduced, elemental, sub-, mon-, or di-oxide --- "free" carbon dioxide in solution in this, that, or the other rock type? Parts per million --- try degassing anything completely, and you'll see. You want to do an assay and MAKE the distinctions among carbon dioxide that is chemically (salts, adsorbed), or physically (whatever that means in this context --- trapped in inclusions) present in rock samples?
 

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