Is Pat Robertson's View on Prayer in School Inconsistent?

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The discussion centers on the perceived inconsistency in Pat Robertson's views regarding prayer in schools, particularly in the context of separation of church and state. Participants explore various perspectives on his statements and actions, touching on themes of hypocrisy, religious influence in politics, and the implications of his beliefs.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express surprise at agreeing with Pat Robertson, indicating a shift in their perception of his views.
  • Others criticize Robertson as hypocritical, suggesting that his past actions contradict his current stance on prayer in schools.
  • A participant argues that Robertson's advocacy for separation of church and state is consistent, contrasting it with the imposition of mandatory prayer in Iraq.
  • Concerns are raised about Robertson's credibility and motives, with some suggesting he seeks to gain converts and financial support.
  • One participant asserts that there is no actual ban on prayer in schools, but rather restrictions on the use of public schools for religious purposes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding Robertson's views. While some acknowledge a potential consistency in his stance on separation of church and state, others firmly believe that his position is inconsistent and hypocritical.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference historical actions and statements made by Robertson, which may influence their current interpretations. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of the legal and social implications of prayer in public schools.

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For the first time in my life, I actually agree with Pat Robertson...

Looks like I need a new reality meter also...

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I was suprised to hear that Tariq Aziz, the former foreign minister and now deputy prime minister, is actually a Christian.

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Originally posted by russ_watters
Ugh, hypocrisy headache.

i think of it as people coming to understand their faults, it is much more pleasant to see when you look at it that way. ;)


i think it is a great think that i have been privileged to see the day were i can say; go Pat Robertson!

granted, it does still feel rather odd.
 
Of all people, who would of thought it would be Pat Robertson to provide the "shock and awe"!
 
Pat's a liar, a rogue, and a lousy role model. You just get the impression that he wants to ensure that he can get his hands on some new converts...and more fat cash!
 
Originally posted by Zero
Pat's a liar, a rogue, and a lousy role model. You just get the impression that he wants to ensure that he can get his hands on some new converts...and more fat cash!

I agree with all of the above, but I think this particular instance is a bad example. Though I've never closely followed the exploits of Mr. Robertson, AFAIK, Pat has always favoured "separation of church and state" as the Constitution actually prescribes it (that is, the government shall not tell the people what to believe). The use of the phrase "Startling turnabout" is completely incorrect, in this case.

So when the government in America tries to outlaw prayer in public schools he protests, and when the government in Iraq tries to make prayer manditory, or allow prayer but legislate that it must be a Muslim prayer, same objection and for the same reason.

The man is, I have no doubt, a money-grubbing fake. But his position in this case is at least separation.
 
Oh please,

When Robertson ran for president in 1988, one of the things he wanted implemented was to have a new form of "policemen" which would use "the Holy Spirit" to find criminals.

Thats right...

A bunch of Joe Blows walking around going: "God is telling me that you're up to no good... come with me downtown."

One of many of his whacked out ideas.

That man and his cronies (Bush comes close) are the single biggest threat to our secular nation that has ever existed.
 
Pat's position ISN'T consistent at all. There is no ban on prayer in school...there is a general restriction on a public school being used as a church, and teachers preaching to students. Pat agrees with the ideals of Islamic fundamentaists, evenif his faith is different.
 

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