How does string theory describe the wave/particle duality of matter?

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The discussion centers on how string theory relates to the wave/particle duality of matter and the implications for quantum mechanics, particularly in the context of the double slit experiment and the quantum measurement problem. Participants explore theoretical connections and interpretations without reaching a consensus.

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  • Some participants question how string theory describes wave/particle duality and whether it addresses the quantum measurement problem, suggesting that it may not provide new insights into these issues.
  • One participant references the book "Quantum Evolution" to highlight the strangeness of wave-particle duality and proposes that string theory might connect to this duality through the concept of strings being able to exist in multiple states.
  • Another participant suggests that particles in string theory are wavelike excitations of strings, which appear particle-like due to their small size, and raises the issue of the measurement problem in quantum mechanics.
  • A different viewpoint is presented that the Bohmian interpretation of quantum mechanics could emerge from string theory, potentially shedding light on wave-particle duality.
  • Some participants express skepticism about string theory's ability to fundamentally address the interpretations of quantum mechanics, suggesting that it does not offer new perspectives on the measurement problem.
  • There are references to contrasting views in literature, with suggestions to read works by Lee Smolin and Peter Woit for alternative perspectives on string theory and its implications.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on how string theory relates to wave/particle duality or the quantum measurement problem. Multiple competing views and interpretations are presented, indicating ongoing debate and uncertainty.

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Some claims depend on interpretations of string theory and quantum mechanics that are not universally accepted. There are unresolved questions regarding the fundamental assertions of quantum mechanics and how they relate to string theory.

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As the title implies, how does string theory describe the wave/particle duality of matter and the forces? How does it describe the double slit expirement? Thanks for the replies.
 
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String Theory and The Quantum Measurement Problem?

I was going to start a new thread myself to basically ask the same question. But since you've already asked it I'll just add my question to yours.

Does String Theory address the "instantaneous" collapse of the wavefunction?

From what I can tell so far it doesn't. I've read Brian Greene's "Elegant Universe", I saw his video, and I am currently reading his book "The Fabric of the Cosmos". I haven't quite finished this most recent book yet.

But as far as I can tell String Theory has nothing at all to say about the quantum measurement problem. All the hoopla about string theory seems to be about the fact that it promises to possibly incorporate GR with QM.

And from what I can tell about that, the only reason that it incoporates GR is because strings have dimension, and therefore we simply can't apply the equations of GR below a certain size. So rather than truly melding the two, string theory just explains why GR and QM can't be melded together. Isn't that correct?

That certainly appears to be what Brian Greene is saying in his lastest book.
 
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From the book Quantum Evolution by McFadden it can be read that wave-particle duality (quantum superposition/uncertainty principle) are "fundamental to quantum mechanics, yet remain one of science's strangest aspects." One has to wonder how particles that have a discrete size and shape can "unwrap" themselves to travel through space as a diffuse wave passing through different points simultaneously. It seems to me that what strings imply is a connection between the mysteries of being in two places at one time and string theory. With strings there is the chance that we could be living on an isolated membrane that prevents us from seeing the "other slices of the loaf of bread." (Like Brian Greene talked about) But, there is also the fact that through gravity (a proposed non-contained force) we could connect to distant parts of space. I would say that there is a connection between the string theory and particle-wave duality because it implies the possibility that particles (eg photons) traveling say for example from the sun (8 minutes away) have the ability to change their trajectory based on a human observer because of the fact that they are harnessing the power of strings. This is a total assumption.. but I've been thinking about it for sometime.. I too haven't found much info on the connection of the two ideas.. but I'm thinking it has something to do with the supersymmetry involved in string theory and the way quantum mechanics is seemingly chaotic (like the example of the double slit experiment) absent of string theory.

as for the second question.. I have no clue on that one. However the further one gets from a string the more it looks like strings are the exchange of vector bosons between particles.. so maybe what string theory is predicting is the fact that because a closed loop string has no mass it looks similar to a spin 2 vector boson.. or what was once theorized as being a "graviton." This is how it connects quantum mechanics to relatvity... but... I'm not sure on that.. it seems to me that even a closed loop string could become an open ended one... but where would it gain it's light speed endpoints (quarks?) I don't know.
 
You don't have to go all the way to Bohm to believe that the "wave function" and the whole Hilbert space/operator formalism is a useful model, but not a fundamental assertion of quantum mechanics.

"Particles" in string theory are wavelike excitations of strings. They seem particle-like only because the strings are so small. So there's the SST take on "particle-wave duality". As for the wave function, strings are quantized according to the same kind of operator/Hilbert space formalism that's used in other parts of quantum mechanics, and presumably have the same difficulties with the measuremnt problem.
 
The point is that it is widely accepted that string theory does not say anything NEW about the interpretation/measurement in QM. In contrast, in the paper above I suggest that it might.
 
NeutronStar said:
From what I can tell so far it doesn't. I've read Brian Greene's "Elegant Universe", I saw his video, and I am currently reading his book "The Fabric of the Cosmos". I haven't quite finished this most recent book yet.


As anti-dote, I would suggest you also read Lee Smolin's The Trouble with Physics, or Peter Woit's Not Even Wrong. Otherwise you'll get a Yin-Yang imbalance :biggrin:
 
selfAdjoint said:
You don't have to go all the way to Bohm to believe that the "wave function" and the whole Hilbert space/operator formalism is a useful model, but not a fundamental assertion of quantum mechanics.

Then what is a fundamental assertion of quantum mechanics ?
 
If string theory is really the theory of everything, then it must also say what the fundamental assertion of quantum mechanics is.
 

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