Learn C++ & Visual Basic: Software Needed

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The discussion centers around the software requirements for learning C++ and Visual Basic, particularly for beginners. Participants explore various programming environments, compilers, and frameworks associated with these languages, as well as alternative suggestions for learning programming.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the necessary software for learning C++ and Visual Basic.
  • Another participant mentions that Microsoft Visual Studio is expensive but suggests there are free compilers for C++.
  • A participant questions whether Microsoft Visual Studio is sufficient for both programming languages.
  • Some participants recommend learning Visual Basic .NET instead of older versions, noting that it requires Visual Studio .NET, which also supports C++.
  • One participant suggests that C++ is difficult to master and recommends focusing on .NET languages like Visual Basic .NET for practical programming opportunities.
  • Another participant proposes learning JavaScript and DHTML as a simpler alternative, stating that these can be learned with existing software.
  • One participant mentions that JavaScript runs in web browsers and can be used for creating simple games.
  • A participant suggests starting with C language as a fundamental programming language before moving to others.
  • Some participants discuss the relevance of .NET programming in the context of professional opportunities, contrasting it with standard C/C++ and Java for broader applicability.
  • Several participants provide links to resources for compilers and development environments, including free options like the Visual C++ Toolkit and DevC++.
  • One participant humorously comments on the confusion surrounding the discussion.
  • A participant reflects on their choice of programming language, suggesting a focus on C and C++ on Unix platforms for long-term satisfaction.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions regarding the best software and languages to learn, with no clear consensus on a single approach. Some advocate for .NET languages, while others emphasize the importance of learning C/C++ and alternatives like JavaScript.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various software options and frameworks, but there are unresolved questions about the best starting point for beginners, the relevance of different programming languages, and the implications of choosing certain environments over others.

Who May Find This Useful

Beginners interested in programming, educators looking for software recommendations, and individuals exploring different programming languages and environments.

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i am new to C++ and Visual Basic,so can anyone let me know what software is needed for each programming language...tks
 
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You're going to have to shell out +$500 for Microsoft's Visual Studio if you want to program in C++ and Visual Basic. However, I believe there are free compilers for C++, but I don't really know them too well.
 
err...i just need microsoft visual studio for both programming language?
 
Nowdays you have what is called the microsoft.net framework, I would highly recommend learning visual basic.net instead of old visual basic unfortunately this requires you to obtain visual studio.net this also compiles c++ and the newer managed .net c++. For a good plain old free c++ commandline compiler try borland bcc 5 ?.

http://www.freeprogrammingresources.com/cppcomp.html
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username,u talk until i blur blur already coz i juz new to programming...err...you meant it's better for me to get visual studio.net to learn these 2 programming language?
 
Yeah sorry the fact is C++ is one of the most difficult programming languages to learn ever to become an expert (if they exist) takes many many years. I would suggest if you want to make money from programming start learning microsoft.net enabled languages such as visual basic.net forget c++ at any rate. I do not have much experience with visual basic sorry buts it bound to be a better idea to learn than c++.
 
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If you are new to programming the best way forward is to learn javascript and dhtml, now that is free and you already have all the software you need.
 
i have already learned dhtml before...so if i want to learn javascript,what are the software that i need?
 
Javascript can run inside your internet browser. The best way to find out about learning dhtml/javascript is doing a google search. Although javascript is not a compiled language you can still do fun stuff with it like making simlple games etc.
 
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oops,but my fren ask me to learn C language first coz he said C language is the most fundamental programming language
 
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Well depends if you are learning this by yourself or have a teacher. If you are on your own start off simple. Set yourself a task e.g. try and make the worms program in javascript and stick it on a website. Keep it simple and fun then learn C.
 
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username...tks for all of ur advices,really appreciate it,thank you very much
 
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.Net (C#, VB, etc) is good if your going to program exclusively for Microsoft's products. In the real world there is more than just one operating system, and if you want to professionally program for some major corporation such as IBM, you won't be doing your programming in .Net, but rather standard C/C++ and/or Java.
 
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Have a look at http://msdn.microsoft.com/visualc/vctoolkit2003/

"What is the Visual C++ Toolkit 2003?
The Visual C++ Toolkit is a free edition of Microsoft’s professional Visual C++ optimizing compiler and standard libraries--the same optimizing compiler and standard libraries that ship in Visual Studio .NET 2003 Professional!"

According to http://www.thefreecountry.com/compilers/basic.shtml (scroll down about 20%), you might be able to download "Microsoft .NET Framework Software Development Kit / Microsoft VB.NET / Free Visual Basic .NET Compiler".

In addition, check out gcc (which can be installed with cygwin http://www.cygwin.com ) and DevC++ from http://www.bloodshed.net/devcpp.html .
 
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they are all in https://www.amazon.com/?tag=pfamazon01-20
check for software link, set up an account, and order! a few days later, you would get the package. Then, unpackage it, put the CD into your CD rom driver, and just let it automatically install the software in your machine.
After already installing the software, you will be asked to restart the computer, just do as what you are told, a minute or 2 then you can make your first program in C/C++/MFC and VB.
Help ?
 
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This is exactly the wind what makes people cold ! not the PHPer !
 
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Pattielli,

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alanveron ,

Ok... this is very basic question when person going to start his profession ,

Ok I made a mistake to going for vb ( now no one is using it ) , so go for the basic technologies
Like c , C++ on unix platform , Trust me you will find yourself most happy person even after 10 years form now


You can use c++ on Unix , Linux , dos , Windows
Good luck buddy

Rahul
 

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