Raising the temperature of a solvent

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The discussion revolves around the effects of raising the temperature of a solvent, particularly water, on its maximum solubility of solutes. Participants explore the underlying mechanisms of solubility changes, including kinetic energy, molecular interactions, and structural changes in both the solvent and solute.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that increasing temperature 'loosens' electrostatic interactions, allowing water molecules to form clathrates around solute molecules or ions.
  • Another participant questions whether the temperature of the solute itself is more significant than that of the solvent, prompting a clarification that the medium's temperature is indeed more critical.
  • A detailed explanation is provided about how dissolving occurs, emphasizing the role of kinetic energy and electrostatic forces in breaking bonds between solute molecules and facilitating their interaction with solvent molecules.
  • One participant expresses a personal view that heating causes expansion within solute molecules, thereby increasing intermolecular space and allowing for more solvent particles to interact.
  • Another participant acknowledges the previous point but indicates that the actual process of dissolution is more complex than merely slipping into molecular spaces.

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Participants express differing views on the mechanisms behind increased solubility with temperature changes, indicating that multiple competing explanations exist without a clear consensus.

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Some explanations rely on assumptions about molecular behavior and interactions that may not be universally accepted or fully resolved within the discussion.

Thomo
Raising the temperature of a solvent (eg water) alters the maximum solubility why?
 
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Because raising the temperature 'loosens' electrostatic interactions between molecules thus making it easier for water to pry themselves in between and form a clathrate (cage) around individual molecules or ions thereaby separating them. Basically your increasing the kinetic energy of molecules and therefore their moving around the solution at a much higher rate when they are at higher temperatures.
 
>>>thus making it easier for water to pry themselves in between <<<

so its more to do with the temp of the thing your trying to dissolve not so much the medium E8?
 
so its more to do with the temp of the thing your trying to dissolve not so much the medium E8?
No, it is more about the temprature of the medium you are dissolving In.
To understand this you must first understand how dissovling happens.
The dissolved material has somekind of bound between its molecules (for example, in NaCl the bounds are Ionic), when a certain material gets dissolved in a certain medium, it means that the bound between the molecule of the matterial were broken (even if not all of them), and re-formed with the medium.
For example, let's take NaCl (table salt), being dissolved in H2O (water), the molecules of H2O has a positive and negative side (due to the difference in electronegativity of H and O, and also due to the shape of H2O), in other words, the molecules of Water are being attracted to each other by a electrostatic force (the positive side of a water molecule attracts the negative side of antoher water molecule, forming hexagons if water is cold).
Now, when you put NaCl in that water, the positive side of the water molecule will head towards the negative Cl ion, and the negative side of other water molecules will head towards the positve Na ion, and those water molecules will form a cage round the ions, therefore taking the ions out of the NaCl block (or, actually, dissolving NaCl !).
Now that you have an idea how this happens, let's see the effect of temprature on that.
When you raise the temprature of water, the kinetic energy of the water molecules will become bigger (or in other words, the average speed of each molecule will become higher), so the water molecules will have more energy to beat the force between the ions of NaCl, and form the cages (and it will also be easier since the electrostatic force between the water molecules will become less effective on the movement of the waster molecules).

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Originally posted by Thomo
Raising the temperature of a solvent (eg water) alters the maximum solubility why?

i don't mean to be picky, but you mean 'how'. 'why' is for philosophy.
 
Thankyou for your time and replies STAii and E8
 
this is because.

i feel,
When you heat a object it expands.the same hapens inside the molecule of a solute. the inter molecular space expands there by letting space for more particles of solvent to deposite or to be there. I feel this is the cause. i am not good in explaining. so please forgive me for any mistakes.
 
this is because.

i feel,
When you heat a object it expands.the same hapens inside the molecule of a solute. the inter molecular space expands there by letting space for more particles of solvent to deposite or to be there. I feel this is the cause. i am not good in explaining. so please forgive me for any mistakes.
 
No problem thomo :wink:
Well benzun_1999, it is sometimes explained the way you are saying, but you see, what really happens in reality is not that the molecules of the matterial simply slip in the molecular spaces of the medium.
 

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