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| Jun17-04, 09:09 AM | #1 |
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I can't see how stress-energy tensor meets the minumum tensor requirement
Gentlemen,
I am sorry. I did a few typing errors here in order to put latex in and I even use 12 minute = 1 hour. This might confuse you. Let me try to correct this. Said , I use the simple dust model with 216,000 grams in a volume of 1 light-hour^3. So, [tex] T^\mu\nu [/tex] = diag(216000 , 0, 0, 0) in a coordinates using light-hour as the unit. If now, I change to the unit of light-minute. The energy density shall be 216000 gram/ 60^3 = 1 gram/light-minute^3. So, in this coordinate [tex] T^{\mu\nu} [/tex] = diag(1,0,0,0). Now, if I use the standard tensor translation: [tex] T^{\mu' \nu'} [/tex] = [tex] T^{\mu\nu} * \partial x^\mu' / \partial x^\mu * \partial x^\nu' / \partial x^\nu [/tex] I will never get it right. Rather, [tex] \partial x^\mu' / \partial x^\mu [/tex] = diag (60, 60, 60, 60). Every 60 light-minute equals to 1 light-hour. For a point as (1,1,1,1) in the [tex] \mu [/tex] coordinate, its coordinates will be (60,60,60,60) for the light-minute coordinates. I will have 216000*3600 for the energy density for the stress-energy tensor in the coordiante of light-minute then. Did I do something wrong here? If not, how do you reconcile this? Thanks |
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| Jun17-04, 09:20 AM | #2 |
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Gentlemen,
Sorry, I intend for upper [tex] \mu [/tex] , but can't get it working. |
| Jun17-04, 11:29 AM | #3 |
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Use braces {} around your mu and nu thus: T^{\mu\nu}.
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| Jun17-04, 02:19 PM | #4 |
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I can't see how stress-energy tensor meets the minumum tensor requirement
Thanks.
Any way, I figured out what's going on. It's a convenient way for you to write it and describe [tex] T^{00} [/tex] as mass density. Actually, it is probably more correct to write a tensor as [tex] T^\mu _{abc} [/tex] in away such that [tex] T^0 _{abc} = (1/6)*Mass*Time/Volume [/tex] for (a,b,c) = perm(1,2,3) and [tex] T^i _{abc} = (1/6)*Mass*Length/(Area*Time) [/tex] for i not= 0 and (a,b,c) = perm(0,1,2) or perm(0,1,3) or perm(0,2,3) The above tensor could be used in integration. And the stress-energy tensor in most article will be: [tex] T^{\mu\nu} = T^\mu _{abc} \epsilon^{abc\nu} [/tex] Any way a definition taking out the mass density part as a coefficient probablly will do too. Regards |
| Jun24-04, 09:10 AM | #5 |
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Robphy has introduced this article in the thread about energy:
http://relativity.livingreviews.org...04-4/index.html In its page 11, EQ (6) has shown how the symmetric stress tensor needs to be transformed to a 3-form for integration, so as in EQ (7). . In its page 26, a tensor of rank(0,4) as 'Bel-Robinson" momentum was shown how it can be integrated to become a quantity as energy. In its page 25, one of the approach to a conserved quantity could be integration over a 4-dimensional domain. This of course will better be a tensor of either rank (0,4) or (1,4). I think. Most of current approaches mentioned treat energy as a quantity pertained to a spacelike 3-dimensional hypersurface. I wonder it's possible to look for a physic quantity pertained to a 4-dimensional domain. |
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