Forces Of Charge In An Electric Field

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a charge placed in a specified electric field, requiring the determination of the magnitude and direction of the electrostatic force acting on it. The subject area pertains to electrostatics and vector analysis in electric fields.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the force's direction relative to the x-axis and question how to interpret the angle found. There is mention of drawing diagrams to aid understanding, and some participants express confusion about the nature of the electric field acting on the charge.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing with various interpretations of the problem being explored. Some participants have provided guidance on focusing on the direction relative to the x-axis, while others are clarifying the role of the electric field acting on the charge.

Contextual Notes

There appears to be confusion regarding the electric field generated by the charge itself versus the external electric field specified in the problem statement. Participants are questioning assumptions about the forces involved and the nature of the electric field.

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Homework Statement


A charge of [tex]8\times 10^{-5}[/tex]C is placed in an electric field [tex](3000\b{i}-600\b{j})[/tex]N/C. What are the (a) magnitude and (b) direction (relative to the positive direction of the [tex]x[/tex]-axis) of the electrostatic force?


Homework Equations


[tex]F=Eq_0[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution


(a) [tex]F=(0.24\b{i}-0.048\b{j}) \implies |F| = 0.245[/tex]N
(b) How is direction determined? I understand it's positive charge thus the field is always pointing away from the charge. By finding angle, [tex]\theta = \tan ^{-1}\left(-0.048/0.240) = -11.3^o[/tex], but what does the force direction actually point in? Away from origin, towards origin? The angle I found, I cannot relate to theory. Can someone explain the direction.

Thanks in advance.
 
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You have just to find the direction wrt x axis. And you have found it. There is nothing like towards or away the origin... Away or towards depend upon the position of the charge
 
You have found the angle with respect to the x-axis as FedEx has said. I also recommend drawing a picture of the electric field, and since the charge is positive, the force will be pointing in the same direction as the field. Just so you can understand the concept and not just see numbers.
 
It's a positive charge so field will be radially outwards. Is force also in those direction. If that is the case, then it will cancel out as there will be forces in opposite direction. :confused:
 
No, you don't include the field from the charge since it doesn't feel a force from itself. You only include the electric field that acts on the charge.
 
nickjer said:
No, you don't include the field from the charge since it doesn't feel a force from itself. You only include the electric field that acts on the charge.

But there isn't a field which acts on it. :confused:

There's only it's electric field.
 
Yes, that is another way of putting it. I was just discussing the sketch you draw. You don't need to draw the field lines of the point charge since you don't take it into consideration when determining the force on it.

Edit: Did you edit your last post? Because what you said originally was right, but now what you said is wrong. HallsofIvy explains what is wrong below.
 
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Air said:
But there isn't a field which acts on it. :confused:

There's only it's electric field.
No, the problem specifically said "A charge of 8 x 10-15C is placed in an electric field [tex](3000\b{i}-600\b{j})[/tex] N/C". That is the field acting on it.
 
HallsofIvy said:
No, the problem specifically said "A charge of 8 x 10-15C is placed in an electric field [tex](3000\b{i}-600\b{j})[/tex] N/C". That is the field acting on it.

Oh yes. So the resolved direction would give that the field is South-East?
 

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