Can Power of a Number Indicates Dimensions ?

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The discussion revolves around the idea of whether the power of a number can indicate its dimension, exploring the relationship between integer values and dimensionality. Participants examine this concept through various examples and mathematical interpretations, including prime numbers and their factors.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that raising a number to a power correlates with its dimension, proposing that 2 is one-dimensional, 4 is two-dimensional, and so forth.
  • Another participant questions the meaning of dimensions in this context, stating that the value of a quantity does not necessarily indicate its dimensionality.
  • Some participants propose that prime numbers are one-dimensional, while composite numbers may have varying dimensions based on their prime factors.
  • There is a suggestion that the concept of dimension could be defined as the number of equal prime factors, though this does not apply uniformly to all numbers.
  • One participant raises the idea of restricting the discussion to integer or quantum values, excluding irrationals and transcendental numbers.
  • Concerns are expressed about how this concept relates to traditional geometric dimensions, with some participants finding it difficult to connect the two.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the relationship between the power of a number and its dimension. Multiple competing views are presented, with some arguing for a connection based on prime factors, while others challenge the validity of such a relationship.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various interpretations of dimensionality, particularly in relation to prime numbers and their factors. There are unresolved questions regarding how to classify certain numbers and the implications of their dimensionality.

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Can Power of a Number Indicates Dimensions ?

When we raise a number to certain power, does the result indicates or tells about its dimension? So that for each integer value there is a dimension exclusively associated with each number.

Obviously, this will not work for the number 1. But for number 2, it works nicely.

[itex]2^0 = 1, 2^1 = 2, 2^2 = 4, 2^3 = 8, 2^4 = 16, ...[/itex]. This tells us that the number 1 is the only number that can be in any dimension while the number 2 is basically one dimensional. The number 4 is basically two dimensional. The number 8 is basically three dimensional, the number 16 is basically four dimensional, etc.
 
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what is (√2)2, what is 42?

The indice of a unit often tells you something about the 'dimensions' of a quantity, but the vale says nothing.
 
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jcsd,

The notation square root of 2 to the power 2 is just another notation for the number 2 which is one dimensional. 4 to the power 2 is the same as 2 to the 4th power and the number 16 has dimension of 4.

The integer 1 is multi-dimensional, 2 is 1 dim, 3 is 1-dim, 4 is 2 dim, 5 is 1 dim, 6 is 1 dim, 7 is 1 dim, 8 is 3 dim, 9 is 2 dim, etc.

It seems that all prime numbers are one dimensional numbers.
 
It really doesn't mean anything at all thoug, quantities such as area can take on any real values.
 
Antonio,

2^n is the number of subsets you can from a set of n elements. Possibly you are grasping an intuition of this fact, and mistakenly confusing it with the concept of dimension.

The 2^n idea was used to define transfinite numbers time ago by getting a generalization of the inequality 2^n > n . A pending question from early XXth century mathematics is if there is some infinite number between a0 and 2^a0, being a0 the countable infinite of natural numbers.
 
jcsd said:
It really doesn't mean anything at all thoug, quantities such as area can take on any real values.

Can we just restrict the number to integer values? Or quantum values? Without decimals and hence not dealing with irrationals and transcendental numbers.
 
Antonio Lao said:
It seems that all prime numbers are one dimensional numbers.
Ah, this is a different concept. Are you calling d(n)="number of prime factors of n"? Or D(n)="number of divisors of n"? It does not matter a lot, because obviously d(n)=<D(n)=<2^d(n).

The collection of numbers having d(n)=2 is very important for cryptography, so I am pretty sure they have been studied deeply. The collection d(n)=1 is of course the set of prime numbers as you have said. I am not aware of interest for d(n)>2
 
Arivero,

I will get back with you with my reply. My warning is that I am not good at math.
 
arivero,

I think, what I'm saying is that I am defining dimension as the number of equal prime factors. Obviously, this would not work for the number 6. I guess, 6 is the product of two primes (2 and 3). So I really can't say anything about the dimension of the number 6. Between 1 and 9, with the exception of 6, there are 4 one-dimensional number: 1,2,5,7. There are 2 two-dimensional number: 4, 9. There is only one three-dimensional number: 8. Again, the number 10 would have the same problem as 6. Can't tell anything about the dimension of 10. But 11 is one-dimensional. 12 is also a problem. 13 is one dimensional. 14 is problem. 15 is problem. 16 is four dimensional. 17 is one dimensional. 18 is problem. 19 is one dimensional. 20 is problem. 21 is problem. The next three dimensional number would be the number 27.
 
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Hmm. I do not forsee how to attach this concept to the usual ones of geometry.

Btw 72 is a hell of problem for your view.
 
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arivero said:
Btw 72 is a hell of problem for your view.

I don't understand? Could you explain a little bit more.
 
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Normally we just call these things; 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 11, ... "prime powers".
 
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Hurkyl,

You lost me there.
 

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