Are There Viable Alternatives to Dark Matter in Explaining Galactic Motion?

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The discussion centers on the viability of alternatives to dark matter in explaining the motion of galaxies, particularly through modifications to gravitational laws or the introduction of new universal laws. It explores theoretical frameworks and observational evidence related to galactic dynamics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the necessity of dark matter and suggests exploring modifications to gravitational laws as a potential explanation for galactic motion.
  • Another participant references MOND (modified Newtonian dynamics) as an alternative approach, noting its ad hoc nature and challenges in testing it against dark matter models.
  • A different participant mentions recent observations of satellite galaxies that seem to support the dark matter hypothesis, indicating a lack of favor for modifications to gravitational laws.
  • There is a request for more specific technical information regarding the dynamics of satellite galaxies and their implications for dark matter versus modified gravity theories.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and viability of dark matter versus alternative theories, with some supporting dark matter based on recent observations, while others advocate for the exploration of modified gravitational theories.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects uncertainty regarding the effectiveness of MOND and the extent to which recent observations support or challenge the dark matter hypothesis. There are unresolved questions about the consistency and testability of alternative models.

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Greetings !

I wonder if we really need to pursue just the dark matter
direction to explain why galaxies turn the way they do and
the whole cosmology part about the form of Universal space-time.

Has there been an attempt to explain the motion
of galaxies by adding another Universal law or purhaps
altering the law of Gravity for larger scales (in a way
partially similar to what Einstein attempted to justify
a supposedly stable Universe) ? If so (talking about an
extension of Gravity), has there been a consistent pattern
observed - a similar connection between the normal mass of
the galaxy and the estimated required mass of the dark matter ?

In addition, could such an assumption experience difficulties
or alternativly help solve some other cosmological puzzles ?

Thanks ! :smile:

Live long and prosper.
 
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There is an alternate approach called MOND (modified Newtonian dynamics) proposed by Milgrom along the lines you suggest. It was written up in a recent issue of Scientific American. The major problem with the approach is that it is rather ad hoc, and difficult to test. I don't know if Milgrom and people working on that idea have come up with some test to distinguish it from non-baryonic matter. Some dark matter is baryonic, but most of it is not.
 
Greetings !

I just read a short stroy in a paper today mentioning
Milgrom and the two different approaches to the problem.
Is seems that recent surveys and observation of the dynamics
of settelite galaxies (smaller galaxies orbiting larger
galaxies) are supportive of the Dark Matter hypothesys and
do not favour the alteration of the law of Gravity possibility.

However, the short story that I read did not mention any more
specifics or technical info, so I'd appreciate relevant input.

Thanks ! :smile:

Live long and prosper.
 

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