Building a waterballoon launching Trebuchet

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around building a water balloon launching trebuchet, focusing on design considerations, materials, dimensions, and safety. Participants share their experiences and seek advice on the mechanics involved in constructing such a device.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to build a trebuchet for launching water balloons and seeks guidance on materials, counterweight, and sling design, while also noting concerns about the balloon bursting before release.
  • Another participant requests information about the energy dynamics of a trebuchet, specifically kinetic energy, indicating a need for foundational understanding.
  • A participant suggests that calculations involving projectile motion and work/energy concepts are necessary for the project, implying that it may be challenging for younger builders.
  • A later reply mentions the availability of trebuchet simulator programs online, recommending them for design ideas and cautioning against unsafe practices without parental involvement.
  • Another contributor shares their experience building a similar-sized trebuchet, noting that they achieved good results without extensive calculations, emphasizing the importance of counterweight and suggesting that a smooth delivery mechanism can prevent balloon breakage.
  • This participant also highlights the need for safety measures in the design, particularly regarding the trigger mechanism, to ensure safe operation while loading the trebuchet.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of confidence in the feasibility of building the trebuchet, with some suggesting that it may be challenging while others share successful experiences. There is no consensus on specific design parameters or safety measures, indicating ongoing debate and exploration.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions involve assumptions about the participants' prior knowledge of physics concepts, and there are references to specific dimensions and counterweights that may not be universally applicable. The conversation reflects a mix of practical advice and theoretical considerations without resolving the complexities involved in the project.

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Individuals interested in DIY projects, physics enthusiasts, and those looking to engage in hands-on learning about mechanics and projectile motion may find this discussion beneficial.

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OK as you can tell I am 12 but fairly smart (wink,wink) This summer me and my friends plan to have a huge neighborhood water gun fight and I plan on building a waterballoon launching Trebuchet about 3 or 4 feet heigh. I need some help with the materials I should use and the weight of the well counterweight in fact I need most the dimensions but the height. For quick transportation I need to use wheels which will increase the velocity at which the waterballoon will travel but i am afraid that the waterballoon will burst before it has time to be released out of the sling. What type of sling should I use? :confused:

Oh yeah forgot to mention this... I am lazy and fairly broke(after all I am only 12)
 
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oi man i really need sum help...do u noe nething about the ebergies of a trebuchet like kinetic energy,etc. man i wood really preciate it...and email me at sexy_genius92@hotmail.com...and yeh i 14
 
you would have to do some calculations on projectile motion. You would also have to know Work/Energy concept. This think this project will be a little hard for you.
 
imonly12but I am smart said:
OK as you can tell I am 12 but fairly smart (wink,wink) This summer me and my friends plan to have a huge neighborhood water gun fight and I plan on building a waterballoon launching Trebuchet about 3 or 4 feet heigh. I need some help with the materials I should use and the weight of the well counterweight in fact I need most the dimensions but the height. For quick transportation I need to use wheels which will increase the velocity at which the waterballoon will travel but i am afraid that the waterballoon will burst before it has time to be released out of the sling. What type of sling should I use? :confused:

Oh yeah forgot to mention this... I am lazy and fairly broke(after all I am only 12)

There are some trebuchet simulator programs on the net, such as ATREB

http://www.trebuchet.com/sim/

The same website sells commercial kits. I have no idea of how good the kits or simulators are. I'd suggest sticking to the demo versions of the software and looking at the pictures for ideas - actually, I'd also suggest sticking to computer simulations unless you get your parents involved to be sure you're not doing anything unsafe.
 
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A friend and I built one a few years back about the size you are talking about (as a prototype... Its big brother should be coming into existence this summer :-P) We didn't do that many calculations, just read a bit and played with the simulator to get a good idea of what was going on. There's an online book around somewhere on the physics of Trebuchets...

Anyway, I don't think the force will break the water balloons, its a fairly smooth delivery. We easily get a golf ball about 100ft, but you need about 70lb counterweight - the more the better. I know our dimensions aren't anywhere near optimal - 2.5' high, 4' arm and our mechanism is pretty crude, so you might do a lot better. I think the hardest part to design is the bearing, so do some thinking!

Oh, and I agree with pervect, get your folks involved and be carefull. We made a "safety" for it as a backup to the trigger, I suggest you do the same. Just something to make sure it stays cocked while you're loading etc. That arm gets up a hell of a speed without a projectile...

Good luck.
 

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