Falling from an aircraft effects?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of dropping an object, specifically a relatively light box, from an aircraft or helicopter. Participants explore the forces acting on the object during its descent, including gravity, air resistance, and potential interactions with the aircraft's rotor or jet engine. The conversation touches on theoretical implications and practical concerns regarding safety and object behavior during free fall.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks information on the forces acting on a box dropped from a moving helicopter, questioning how its light weight might affect its behavior during descent.
  • Another participant challenges the notion that a light box could cause a serious accident, stating that the primary forces are gravity, air friction, and possibly rotor push.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that the box will initially maintain the aircraft's forward speed but will decelerate due to air resistance, potentially leading to collisions with aircraft components.
  • One participant introduces the concept of mass density, proposing that if the box's density is lower than that of air, it could rise, while a higher density would lead to downward acceleration, though gravity and air resistance would dominate.
  • Another participant expresses concern about upward turbulence generated by the rotor, indicating a desire to understand if the box could be affected by such turbulence and potentially drawn back towards the rotor area.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of dropping a light box from an aircraft, with no consensus on the potential dangers or the specific effects of air turbulence and density on the object's behavior.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the complexity of calculating the effects of turbulence and rotor dynamics, indicating that precise predictions may be challenging without advanced computational resources.

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Falling from an aircraft...effects?

Deploying something from an aircraft or helo...what are the different forces that are going to act on that object, or rather, where would I find information about that. Say a relatively light box is dropped out of a moving helo, how would I go about figuring out what happens to the box if the helo is moving at V knots and the box is LxWxH and its mass is M? I figured that it the box is too light, some sort of air displacement could cause it to act "odd" and could cause a serious accident or injury to the flight crew.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Not sure what you mean by "act "odd"... I don't see how dropping a box that is "too light" could cause a "serious accident". The forces on a dropped object I know about are gravity, air friction, and perhaps the push of a rotor, all of which push things from an aircraft away from the aircraft.
 
Well, if you're throwing something out of an airplane, it's going to slow down because of air resistance, and may hit other parts of the exterior as it does so...possibly including jet intakes/props, depending on where it's ejected from the fuselage. This might harm the crew...not directly, of course, but the results may not be pretty.

In terms of a general effect on the box...it will accelerate towards the ground at 9.8m/s^2, less air resistance, until it hits critical velocity. It's initial forward speed relative to the ground will be the velocity of the aircraft it's thrown from for a very short time, until it slows down because air resistance.

Perhaps what you are thinking about in your reference to a "light box" is some form of turbulence along the hull that would throw it back in. If so...that is theoretically possible, but incredibly difficult to calculate...and you'd need a CRAY on hand to do it.
 
Greetings !

Could it be that you wanted to imply low mass density ?
Well, abviously if the mass density of the object is lesser
than that of the air at the drop altitude it will go up.
If its greater than it will go down. I believe, that if the mass density is considrably greater than that of the surrounding air, this
effect will be neglagible compared to gravity and air resistance.

As others here said with a jet engine its pretty simple to figure out
the effect, but with a rotor it could be a lot more difficult.

Live long and prosper.
 
Turbulence I guess.

I think what I was looking for was if any upward turbulance, towards the rotor, was generated by the rotor. I wouldn't want the package to somehow be sucked, or blown back up into the general vicinity of the rotor.

Thanks for all the input.
 

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