Application of Coloumb's Law to electroscope

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of Coulomb's Law to determine the total charge on an electroscope, specifically focusing on a scenario where two charged balls at the ends of wires are held apart at an angle due to electrostatic repulsion. The scope includes mechanics and electrostatics, with participants exploring the forces acting on the system.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the setup of the electroscope and expresses difficulty in determining the electrical force required to maintain the angle of the wires.
  • Another participant suggests using Coulomb's Law and notes that the system is in static equilibrium.
  • A participant acknowledges the static equilibrium condition, confirming that the net force is zero.
  • One participant mentions that the downward force due to gravity must be resolved horizontally to equal the repulsive force from the charges, introducing trigonometric considerations.
  • Another participant challenges the idea of a horizontal component of the downward force, suggesting a misunderstanding of the forces involved.
  • A later reply clarifies that it is the tension in the wires that provides the horizontal force component opposing the electrostatic repulsion, rather than gravity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to apply Coulomb's Law and the concept of static equilibrium, but there is disagreement regarding the components of the forces acting on the system, particularly the role of gravity versus tension in the wires.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes unresolved aspects regarding the precise relationship between the forces and the angles involved, as well as the assumptions made about the system's equilibrium.

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Hi there, I am having a bit of difficulty with this problem dealing with a little more difficult application of Couloumbs Law.

A large electroscope has two wires that are 75-cm long w/22g balls at the ends. When charged, all the charge resides on the balls (Q/2 for each ball) If the wires each make a 30 degree angle with the vertical, what total charge Q must have been applied to the electroscope?

So I set up my free body diagrams and I know how to figure out the weight force and i believe i can get tension--- but what should I be doing to know how much force electrical force is applied (Repulsion in this case since both charges are positive) to make that 30 degree angle to the vertical?

I need to be thinking back to mechanics a little bit =P

Any help would be appreciated--- thank you.
 
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but what should I be doing to know how much force electrical force is applied

Use Coulomb's Law. Also observe the system is in static equilibrium.
 
yes net force is = to 0 because a = 0. Thank you I noticed that actually right after i posted this--- silly me.
 
Down ward force = mg applied to each side this must be resolved horizontally to equal the charge force which opposes it -- a little trigonometry.
 
There is no horizontal component of a downward force.
 
John not directly your right , but the leaves are held apart by a horizontal force and they are trying to fall due to a vertical force , obviously something connects these two.
 
It isn't the force of gravity, but rather the tension in the leaves, that has the horizontal force component that opposes the charge force.
 

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