Work and Kinetic Energy and elastic collision

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The discussion revolves around a problem in the context of work and kinetic energy, specifically focusing on an elastic collision involving a 2 kg mass colliding with another body at rest. The original poster is attempting to determine the mass of the second body after the collision, given that the first body continues moving in the same direction but at one-fourth of its original speed.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster compares kinetic energy and momentum but expresses uncertainty about solving for the second body's mass without a resultant velocity. Some participants point out that the nature of elastic collisions provides a relationship between the speeds before and after the collision, suggesting that the speed of approach equals the relative speed after the collision.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the relationships between the masses and velocities involved in the collision. Some guidance has been offered regarding the equations that relate these variables, although the discussion has not reached a consensus on the final approach or solution.

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The original poster notes the challenge of lacking a resultant velocity, which is a key aspect of the problem. There is also a correction made regarding the manipulation of equations, indicating an ongoing refinement of understanding the mathematical relationships involved.

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hey all... have a question:

a body of 2 kg mass makes an elastic collision with another body at rest and afterwards continues to move in the original direction but with one-fourth of it's original speed. What is the mass of the struck body?

I started with comparing kinetic energy, then took a look at momentum... but I'm just not sure how I can solve for body #2's mass when I don't have a resultant velocity or anything... please point me in the right direction.

Thanks
 
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But you do have a resultant velocity, as it is elastic. Therefore, speed of approach must equal the relative speed after the collision.

V = Z - W

Where V is the initial velocity, Z is the resulting velocity of the struck object, and W is the resulting velocity of the first object.
 
Let V be final velocity and v be initial velocity of the 2 kg mass. Take the basic equation and multiply each side by v:

V/v = [(m1-m2)/(m1 + m2)]

We know that the ratio of V/v = 1/4. Therefore

1/4 = (m1 - m2)/(m1 + m2)

Cross multiply:

m1 + m2 = 4m1 - 4m2

0 = 3m1 - 5m2

0 = 3 (2 kg) - 5 m2
 
Sorry; I meant divide each side by v
 
thanks... appreciate it more than you know
 

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