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How does symmetry breaking occur?
The discussion centers on the concept of symmetry breaking, exploring how it occurs in various contexts, particularly in physics and mathematics. Participants examine both theoretical and applied aspects of symmetry breaking, including examples and implications in different scenarios.
Participants express varying levels of understanding and agreement on the concepts discussed. Some points remain contested, particularly regarding the interpretation of symmetry and the implications of specific examples. Overall, the discussion does not reach a consensus on several aspects of symmetry breaking.
Limitations include potential misunderstandings of terminology, the abstract nature of examples, and the dependence on specific definitions of symmetry and solutions. Some mathematical steps and assumptions remain unresolved.
This discussion may be of interest to those studying theoretical physics, particularly in the areas of symmetry in quantum mechanics and field theory, as well as students seeking to understand the implications of symmetry breaking in various contexts.
What does it mean to be an "equivalent" solution. Does it just mean that both S and T are members of some solution set with no preference of selecting one over the other?vanesch said:... when you take a symmetry operation g in G, then g S = T and T is an "equivalent" solution.
I'm a little confused by the term "solution." What are we solving?vanesch said:Now, it can be that for some reason, we have to choose ONE SINGLE solution. Imagine it is a solution from S0. In that case, we have to choose a specific point O, and the solution we take is {O,O}.
How is that? If we translate the origin, the distance between the points is still zero, isn't it?vanesch said:Everything we will do with this particular solution HAS BROKEN THE TRANSLATION SYMMETRY of the problem.
turin said:1) I'm a little confused by the term "solution." What are we solving?
2) How is that? If we translate the origin, the distance between the points is still zero, isn't it?
3) Can you give a more physical example? I am lost in the abstraction.
turin said:So is there always this effective reduction in (non-trivial) degrees of freedom in the problem when symmetry breaking is induced?