Calculate RPM of 100m Diameter Space Habitat for Simulated Gravity

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The discussion revolves around calculating the required spin rate in RPM for a 100m diameter space habitat to simulate Earth's gravity. Participants are exploring the relationship between centripetal acceleration and angular velocity in the context of rotational motion.

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  • Participants discuss the formula for centripetal acceleration and its relation to angular velocity. There are questions about how to proceed without knowing the mass of the habitat and confusion regarding the conversion factor from RPM to radians per second. Some participants express uncertainty about their calculations and seek validation of their reasoning.

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Several participants have provided insights into the relationships between variables involved in the problem, such as angular velocity and centripetal acceleration. There is an ongoing exploration of the necessary calculations, with some participants questioning their initial assumptions and interpretations of the formulas.

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Participants note the lack of specific information, such as the mass of the habitat, and express confusion over the implications of the conversion factor for RPM. There is a shared sense of urgency due to a tight deadline for submission.

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So i was presented this question and I would not even like the answer but just the path to walk on. Can you help?

In order to simulate the Earth gravity on a space habitat of 100m diameter, what spin rate of a donut-shape space habitat, in terms of RPM, should be.

conversion of RPM is 2(pi)/60 radians/sec

where do I even begin?

I have read that a station 2km in diameter would spin at 1 RPM to simulate a confortable earth-like gravity. Just in my head I came up with the answer of 20 RPMs for a station 100m in diameter, but I have to show my work and explain the theory behind it, but I'm just going on intuition.

Is there hope for me?

Oh yea, I have to hand this in, in three hours and it's the only question out of thirty that I don't even know where to start.
 
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Centripetal force due to spinning = mrw^2
m = mass
r = radius
w = angular velocity (rad/sec)

Force we experience due to gravity = mg
m = mass
g is acceleration

from them: g = rw^2
this will give you the required angular velocity of the spinning station
 
galoshes said:
So i was presented this question and I would not even like the answer but just the path to walk on. Can you help?

In order to simulate the Earth gravity on a space habitat of 100m diameter, what spin rate of a donut-shape space habitat, in terms of RPM, should be.

conversion of RPM is 2(pi)/60 radians/sec

where do I even begin?
Consider centripetal acceleration.

I have read that a station 2km in diameter would spin at 1 RPM to simulate a confortable earth-like gravity. Just in my head I came up with the answer of 20 RPMs for a station 100m in diameter, but I have to show my work and explain the theory behind it, but I'm just going on intuition.

Is there hope for me?
There is always hope. You can't just 'come up' with stuff in physics. It doesn't work that way. Anyways, your intuition is wrong.
 
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thanks for your response. I am confused because I wasn't given the mass of the station just the diameter, so how do I get the centripetal acceleration without mass? I am especially confused because I don't know what to do with 2(pi)/60 rad/sec. I could work with the 60 rad/sec but the 2(pi) is killin me

thanks again
 
galoshes said:
thanks for your response. I am confused because I wasn't given the mass of the station just the diameter, so how do I get the centripetal acceleration without mass? I am especially confused because I don't know what to do with 2(pi)/60 rad/sec. I could work with the 60 rad/sec but the 2(pi) is killin me
The centripetal acceleration is given by [itex]v^2/R[/itex] where v is the tangential velocity and R is the radius. You don't need mass. Then use rotational kinematics to get the rpms.
 
If a particle travels along a circle or circular arc with radius r at constant speed v, it is in uniform circular motion and has an acceleration of magnitude

[tex]a = \frac{v^2}{r}[/tex]

This is directed radially inward. Since [itex]s = \theta r[/itex], differentiating with respect to time with r held constant yields [itex]v = \omega r[/itex]. Substituting this into the equation for acceleration above yields:

[tex]a_r = \frac{\omega^2 r^2}{r} = \omega^2 r[/tex]

where the subscript r is to emphasize that this is a radial acceleration and not a tangential one.

I believe you can use this to find the velocity you are looking for, since you know you want the acceleration to be equal to g and the radius to be equal to 50.0 meters.

The [itex]2\pi / 60[/itex] is a conversion factor for converting between revolutions per minute and radians per second. In general, many of the rules we use to work with angular measures rely on derivations that hold only for radian measure, and as such, it's a good idea to convert to radians before performing any calculations with them.

radians = revolutions X [itex]2\pi[/itex]
 
Ok so maybe I do want ya'll to do this for me because I have no idea what to do with any of the information given because I get .55 RPM and I know that is WAY off
 
[tex]\sqrt{\frac{a_r}{r}} = \omega[/tex]

[tex]\sqrt{\frac{9.8 m/s^2}{50.0 m}} = .4427 ~rad/s = \omega[/tex]

[tex]\frac{.4427 ~rad}{s} \cdot \frac{60 ~s}{1 ~min} \cdot \frac{1 ~rev}{2\pi ~rad} = 4.23 ~RPM[/tex]

Hopefully someone will double-check that.
 
thanks a million
 
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RE: "Centripetal force due to spinning = mrw^2"

Spinning doesn't cause a force. And the centripetal force is not an actual force that acts on the object. It is the vector sum of all forces that act in the radial direction.

RE: "...where the subscript r is to emphasize that this is a radial acceleration and not a tangential one."

Glad that someone else has dropped the term "centripetal." :)
 

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