Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the mass relationship between stars and the black holes (BH) that may form after a supernova explosion. Participants explore the conditions under which black holes are formed, the mass of black holes compared to their progenitor stars, and the nature of black holes in general.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Technical explanation
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- Some participants assert that black holes always have a smaller mass than the progenitor stars from which they form.
- Others propose that black holes can theoretically have any mass, including very small masses, but emphasize that typical black holes formed from stars have masses comparable to those stars.
- One participant mentions that supermassive black holes, found in the centers of galaxies, can have masses millions or billions of times that of the sun, suggesting a different formation process involving accumulation of mass from galactic material.
- There is a discussion about the fusion process in stars creating outward pressure that counteracts gravitational collapse until fusion ceases, leading to the formation of various stellar remnants including black holes.
- A participant expresses surprise at the idea that black holes are not necessarily the most massive objects in space, indicating a misunderstanding of black hole formation and mass.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants generally agree that black holes formed from stars have less mass than their progenitor stars, but there is disagreement regarding the nature of black holes and their mass in different contexts, particularly concerning supermassive black holes.
Contextual Notes
The discussion includes assumptions about the conditions under which black holes form and the definitions of mass in relation to black holes and stars, which may not be fully resolved.