Seemingly simple quantum mechanics/linear algebra problem

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The discussion revolves around finding the eigenvalues and normalized eigenvectors of a specific 3x3 matrix in the context of quantum mechanics and linear algebra. The original poster expresses difficulty in identifying a mistake in their calculations and seeks assistance in verifying their results.

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  • Participants discuss the eigenvalue equation and the process of solving for eigenvalues and eigenvectors. There are inquiries about the implications of a canceled variable in the equations and how to interpret that in the context of the problem.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the eigenvalue equation and the setup for finding eigenvectors. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of certain mathematical results, particularly regarding the interpretation of variables that cancel out in equations.

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The original poster has expressed a desire for direct solutions to compare with their own work, which has prompted reminders about the forum's guidelines on providing complete solutions. There is also mention of a constant factor in the matrix that may affect the calculations.

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Homework Statement



For some reason, I am making a trivial mistake somewhere. I just need to find the eigenvalues and normalized eigenvectors of the following matrix:

H = (1/sqrt(2))*Matrix(Row 1 Row 2 Row 3)

Row 1 = [0 -i 0]
Row 2 = [i 3 3]
Row 3 = [0 3 0]

(Sorry, I don't know the proper latex code for a matrix)

If someone can work this out and just provide the solutions so I can compare, I would really appreciate it.





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I tried.
 
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Use the normal eigenvalue equation:

[tex] \det(H-\lambda\mathbb{I})=0[/tex]

Solve for [tex]\lambda[/tex] (you should have 3 values since you have a [tex]3\times3[/tex] matrix).

For the eigenvectors,

[tex] \left(\begin{array}{ccc}0&-i&0 \\ i&3&3 \\ 0&3&0\end{array}\right)\left(\begin{array}{c}x\\y\\z\end{array}\right)=\lambda\left(\begin{array}{c}x\\y\\z\end{array}\right)[/tex]

where you have to do this as many times as you have [tex]\lambda[/tex] values. That should help you a lot

PS: to write matrices in LaTeX, use the command \begin{array} & \end{array}. The following produced the matrix above:

\left(\begin{array}{ccc}0&-i&0 \\ i&3&3 \\ 0&3&0\end{array}\right)
 
Void123 said:
Row 1 = [0 -i 0]
Row 2 = [i 3 3]
Row 3 = [0 3 0]

(Sorry, I don't know the proper latex code for a matrix)

Click on the [itex]\LaTeX[/itex] image below to see the code that generated it

[tex]H=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\begin{pmatrix}0 & -i & 0 \\ i & 3 & 3 \\ 0 & 3 & 0 \end{pmatrix}[/tex]

If someone can work this out and just provide the solutions so I can compare, I would really appreciate it.

You've been here long enough to know that isn't what we do here.

I tried.

Then show us!
 
I forgot the [tex]\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}[/tex] constant in front of my matrix for the eigenvectors, it should read:


[tex] \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}<br /> \left(\begin{array}{ccc}0&-i&0 \\ i&3&3 \\ 0&3&0\end{array}\right)\left(\begin{array}{c}x\\y\ \z\end{array}\right)=\lambda\left(\begin{array}{c} x\\y\\z\end{array}\right)<br /> [/tex]
 
Thanks guys.

For my eigenvalues, I got [tex]\lambda = 0, -2, 5[/tex]

For the last two eigenvalues, when I set up the linear equations to solve I get something of the sort [tex]cy = cy[/tex] for one of them. What does that mean for [tex]y[/tex]? When the authors of my textbook do an example like this and run into the same situation, they postulate that [tex]y = 1[/tex]. But how is that when the variable cancels out on both sides?

Thanks again.
 
Void123 said:
Thanks guys.

For my eigenvalues, I got [tex]\lambda = 0, -2, 5[/tex]

Try it again without forgetting the factor of [itex]1/\sqrt{2}[/itex]...:wink:
 
Void123 said:
For the last two eigenvalues, when I set up the linear equations to solve I get something of the sort [tex]cy = cy[/tex] for one of them. What does that mean for [tex]y[/tex]? When the authors of my textbook do an example like this and run into the same situation, they postulate that [tex]y = 1[/tex]. But how is that when the variable cancels out on both sides?

Thanks again.

Doesn't that answer your question? If the authors are allowed to set a canceled variable to be 1, doesn't that mean you can too? Usually you let the canceled variable be 1 for simplicity, but you can make it a billion if you really wanted, it'll just make your later calculations a bit more difficult.

But as Gabba suggested, you should add in that [tex]1/\sqrt{2}[/tex] factor to find your eigenvalues before you turn in your assignment.
 

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