Latch explained in the form of relays

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around designing a relay-based latch circuit that can be activated by a pushbutton switch. Participants explore how to wire a single relay for feedback, maintain the circuit's operation after releasing the button, and how to stop the circuit once it has started. The context includes practical applications in 12V systems and the use of various relay configurations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on how to wire a relay for feedback in a 12V application, mentioning the potential use of voltage regulation methods like zener diodes.
  • Another participant suggests using a battery connected to the relay coil via two switches (one normally open and one normally closed) to create a latching effect.
  • A different participant expresses confusion over the description provided and indicates a lack of understanding of the circuit layout.
  • Further clarification is provided about placing the relay in series with both buttons and connecting the relay contacts in parallel with the normally open switch to maintain power after activation.
  • One participant acknowledges understanding after clarification, noting the importance of placing the switched circuit on the correct side of the relay.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for both normally closed and normally open switches in the circuit design. However, there is some confusion regarding the circuit layout and the specific connections, indicating that the discussion remains somewhat unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the circuit diagram and the proper configuration of components, highlighting potential gaps in understanding the wiring and operation of the relay latch system.

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Hey all,

I was in class today, and in order to grasp concepts better, i try to relate them to things i can use them for.

Latches are very very helpful for me, but I like to use 12v applications, so busting out the 74HC74 or 74HC112 (i'm still learning these numbers, so correct me if I'm wrong) isn't going to work (or, could i use them by dropping the voltage before the IC gets power, maybe xener diode or the two transistor method to stabilize voltage?).

Can anyone explain how i could wire a single relay for feedback? In other words, design a simple circuit that all i need to do is depress a pushbutton switch to energize the relay (4-pin/contact N-O), and then when i let go, the circuit will continue to run.

Further, how would i go about stopping this circuit once it starts?

My prof. and I drew the circuit on the board today, but i didn't write it on paper.
 
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Use a voltage source ( battery) connect to the relay coil ( maybe via a suitable resistor) via two simple press switches in series , one NO the other NC. connect the relay contact terminals across the NO switch. When you depress the NO switch the relay will close confirming the connection and stay on when switch is released, to break press the NC switch -- circuit returns to original state. Ray
IF you use a resistor an alternative would be to use another NO switch placed across the relay coil -- the resistor would then limit the current flow from the battery as you turn the circuit off by bypassing the coil.
 
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well, there was a diagram up, but now it's gone... I'm not really following your description.

i might have it, but I'm not sure...
 
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You need a normally closed and a normally opened. Put the relay in series with both buttons. So the relay and both buttons are in one series circuit. Now, place the contacts of the relay switch in parallel with the normally open. Make sure it's only in parallel with the normally opened. When you push the normally opened, it energizes the relay. The relay, now, powers itself, because it's switch shorts the normally opened. Push the normally closed to cut power to the whole circuit.
 
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You need a normally closed and a normally opened. Put the relay in series with both buttons. So the relay and both buttons are in one series circuit. Now, place the contacts of the relay switch in parallel with the normally open. Make sure it's only in parallel with the normally opened. When you push the normally opened, it energizes the relay. The relay, now, powers itself, because it's switch shorts the normally opened. Push the normally closed to cut power to the whole circuit.

No i gotcha, thanks for the clarification. I was putting the circuit after the coil in the relay.

I figured it out after awhile that the switched circuit needs to be on the switched side of the relay.

Thanks again.
 

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