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Jul19-04, 05:24 PM   #1
 

Where is your privacy policy?


? Where is your privacy policy ?
There are strict laws governing, the collection and use of personal data, most web sites, have a privacy policy regarding, the storage and or use of such information,
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Jul20-04, 12:38 PM   #2
 
33 people have looked at this post, and yet there is no reply, the question is simple,
Could somebody please explain, why you don't appear to a privacy policy, what you intend to do it
ps And who is GHB Web Design ?
Could somebody resolve this with some haste , Before I take steps, over the obvious concerns I have
Jul20-04, 12:51 PM   #3
 
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As far as I know, we have never drafted a privacy policy. We simply have never had any privacy issues. We are not a company, have no business license, and have no interest (or legal right) to make a profit. We are an ad hoc team of unpaid volunteers. We certainly have no interest in violating your privacy, but we simply haven't had the time or inclination to go draft a privacy policy. No offense, but we don't really care if you're upset about it. If you are uncomfortable posting here -- don't. We wouldn't want you to have to take any "steps" (). Bernhardt Media and GHB Web Design are trademarked entity names that Greg Bernhardt, the other site admin, uses for his designs.

Here's a privacy policy, adapted from http://www.vbulletin.nl/community/showthread.php?t=2978, which we follow. Perhaps we'll make this our privacy policy from now on:

We store your registration details, host address and your posts in our database to have a fully functional web site. We do not store your information to 'spam' you or 'sell' to third party web sites. (And to prevent abuse like banning an Email address or host address)

Each post made gets stored in our database, this includes the host address used on that moment while making that post. Only our staff members are able to 'view' the host address, but their priveledges end with 'view'. They are not allowed to use it against you or share with others. The only person allowed to use the host address against you are the site admins (Greg Bernhardt and chroot). This is done in situations where it is used to search for duplicate users, trace back a user who has been abusive or has been breaking site posting guidelines.

Our memberlist is setup to not show the email addresses. (Users are presented with a email button instead.)

Our email system is setup to not show the email addresses. (Users are presented with a email form. Your details are not listed, and only if you reply to the email they will see your email address in the reply: field).
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Jul20-04, 01:03 PM   #4
 
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Where is your privacy policy?


Yeah we don't have a concrete policy, maybe I will think about making one. But basicly we store your IP and registration information in our database for forum wide uses only, nothing to worry about. Bernhardt Media is my business and even though you see the bar at the top, PF currently remains a personal investment. GHB Web Design, wow how did you find that out, now your scaring me lol, I used GHB Web Design several years ago in my early teens. Anyway it is no longer an entity.
Jul20-04, 01:11 PM   #5
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GHB Web Design, wow how did you find that out, now your scaring me lol, I used GHB Web Design several years ago in my early teens. Anyway it is no longer an entity.
GHB Web Design is listed as the registrant for physicsforums.com
Jul20-04, 01:13 PM   #6
 
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Oh I guess I haven't updated that in awhile
Jul20-04, 02:39 PM   #7
 
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We wouldn't want you to have to take any "steps" ().
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I'm glad you find me amusing, most people do,

Greg Bernhardt,
Its important to keep your whois, registration information current, and accurate, you never know who's going to insist upon a check, with the obvious legal implications, if any of the information is inaccurate

You should seriously consider posting a privacy policy, and doing some legal checks, as soon as possible, there's things you should be aware of regarding storing personally identifiable information, I urge you to do this now

I'd be happy to assist,

Thank you for explaining yourselves,

let me explain myself
The reason for all of this, isn't that I don't like posting here, I enjoy making a fool of myself, especially in subjects, I know very little about
No its all down to spyware, and certain cookies from your rotational banner by burst media, I investigate, things like that, I'm annoyingly persistent and rigorous, about anything to do with Internet security, and privacy, a subject which I'm sternly serious about, which lead me inevitably to both your privacy policy, and the privacy policy of vBulletin, I've already contacted them, about this over sight, being a UK based company, brings into effect, the notorious, 86 data protection act, with Eu updates, businesses need to be so aware these days, don't you think?

Hope you don't mind, me gently trying to Nudge you in the right direction, but as I said, I'm sternly serious about this subject

Have fun Devilin
Jul20-04, 07:49 PM   #8
 
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We're not a business, and there's nothing illegal about not keeping your whois information current. Give us a break.

- Warren
Jul20-04, 09:09 PM   #9
 
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We certainly have no interest in violating your privacy, but we simply haven't had the time or inclination[/Col. Jessup] to go draft a privacy policy. No offense, but we don't really care if you're upset about it. If you are uncomfortable posting here -- don't.
Maybe we could stick that in our TOS....

No offense, Devlin, but you seem a little(unduly) hung up on this issue. Its accounted for roughly half of your posts in this forum, and I rather suspect you've spent more time investigating it than you have browsing/posting our forums.
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Not necessarily anything wrong with that; privacy is an important issue. The attack dog thing is annoying though...
Jul20-04, 10:04 PM   #11
 
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devilin, no one cares about your privacy this much...
Jul20-04, 10:14 PM   #12
 
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We're not a business, and there's nothing illegal about not keeping your whois information current. Give us a break.

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http://www.icann.org/committees/security/sac003.htm

I believe you'll find, Network Solutions your sever, has a legal agreement which you must sign, about keeping accurate information, industry standard type stuff, in a dispute about the accuracy of the information, somebody could take steps , and freeze an account they believe is inaccurate

As for not being a business, Warren, you are taking money, even low you may not be profitable, once finances are involved, along with personal identifiable information blar blar blar I'm sure you know the rest


russ_watters Yes I'm very hung up about this subject

Listen, I'm trying to be helpful, again I offer my assistance, in helping you create a privacy agreement, there are certain legal aspects which you should be concerned about, once you start collecting, and storing personal identifiable information, do a quick search, find out about this stuff

Although your more than welcome, to ignore me, the choice is entirely yours, but please take a few minutes to investigate the legal aspects
Jul20-04, 10:19 PM   #13
 
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devilin, no one cares about your privacy this much...
I do, I also care about your privacy, I believe its an important issue,
Jul20-04, 10:33 PM   #14
 
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Devilin, we appreciate your help and your point has been made.
Jul20-04, 10:44 PM   #15
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I believe you'll find, Network Solutions your sever, has a legal agreement which you must sign, about keeping accurate information, industry standard type stuff, in a dispute about the accuracy of the information, somebody could take steps , and freeze an account they believe is inaccurate
As long as Greg is reachable, he is ok. Obvioulsy he is reachable through this website.

Network Solutions is just one of a number of domain name registration services. Of course they are the oldest, being the company formed when the Internic was dissolved.

I would bet that greater than 50% of the records are seriously outdated.

Freezing an account does not disconnect the service. (I know I am in the industry and ISP's are my clients) Network Solutions does not check accounts for accuracy. It would probably require no less than a criminal investigation for them to take action.
Jul21-04, 12:43 AM   #16
 
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As long as Greg is reachable, he is ok. Obvioulsy he is reachable through this website.

Network Solutions is just one of a number of domain name registration services. Of course they are the oldest, being the company formed when the Internic was dissolved.

I would bet that greater than 50% of the records are seriously outdated.

Freezing an account does not disconnect the service. (I know I am in the industry and ISP's are my clients) Network Solutions does not check accounts for accuracy. It would probably require no less than a criminal investigation for them to take action.

Hi Evo
I'm not talking about this site, just generally
Outdated records, are a easy target, far more of a harassment tactic than anything else, you contact the sever, the sever is obliged to contact the registered name, Blar blar blar, its an excellent way of getting somebody's attention, but you can close web sites, with less than criminal action, if you know what your doing, its all down to the sever, if the sever believes its in its own best interest, to freeze or suspend a account, it does, simply reading through agreements, pointing out beaches of agreement, can close a site down, if the sever believes its in its own best interest, to do so, its neither easy or fast, but it is possible
Evo Being a industry insider, you should know about, privacy policies and personal identifiable information, why don't you clue these Chaps up?
Jul21-04, 01:02 AM   #17
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Hi Develin,

The people here are really good people. From the infractions I have witnessed elsewhere, I would think this forum would have very little to worry about. But, I guess you can never be too careful.

but you can close web sites, with less than criminal action, if you know what your doing, its all down to the sever, if the sever believes its in its own best interest, to freeze or suspend a account, it does, simply reading through agreements, pointing out beaches of agreement, can close a site down, if the sever believes its in its own best interest, to do so, its neither easy or fast, but it is possible
True, the "path of least resistance". Easier to take action and ask forgiveness later. I am all too familiar with this approach. However, the potential loss of business lawsuits if it is found that they acted too hastily, usually prevents such harsh measures from being taken without a warrant.

I've had to give testimony in court in dealings with ISP's before.

All of what you said is relevant, but your posts were a bit aggresive, even if they weren't meant that way.
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